Neo-Nazi, Ex-Trump Dinner Guest, Nick Fuentes Bitterly Rages At Trump For Admitting He Lost 2020 Election: ‘Would have been good to know that before 1,600 people got charged’

[u/T_Shurt]

https://www.mediaite.com/news/neo-nazi-ex-trump-dinner-guest-bitterly-rages-at-trump-for-admitting-he-lost-rants-you-deserve-to-be-charged/

[u/maybesaydie]

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[u/NCMathDude]

They knew what they were getting into … so stop lying

[u/minkey-on-the-loose → u/NCMathDude]

Like the frog and the scorpion metaphor? Or like leopard-eating-face metaphor

[u/Fireflash2742 → u/minkey-on-the-loose]

Both.

[u/gwizonedam → u/Fireflash2742]

lol I just pictured a frog screaming as his face is ripped off by a leopard and a scorpion is stinging him in the head laughing.

[u/icecream169 → u/gwizonedam]

While he drowns.

[u/badluckfarmer → u/icecream169]

You're a marshmallow, Glenn.

[u/LTR_TLR → u/badluckfarmer]

https://imgur.com/a/ieIW39r

[u/One-Solution-7764 → u/icecream169]

Well, that depends. If in the Orinoco drainage basin, there's crocodile acutus, as well as crocodile intermedius at play. Not to mention 5 types of caimen, including the black caimen which can grow to 22 feet !!!!

[u/DigDoug92 → u/gwizonedam]

"Lol.", said the scorpion. "Lmao."

[u/Volunteer-Magic → u/gwizonedam]

and a scorpion ja stinging him in the head laughing.

“What did you expect, I’m a scorpion, lol!”

[u/MoistLeakingPustule → u/gwizonedam]

Leopard scorpion. Scorpion bodies, tails and legs, covered in leopard fur, with 8 eyed leopard heads, eating toad faces, almost exclusively.

[u/ithappenedone234 → u/Fireflash2742]

Let’s focus on the fact that this nut job said something cogent, the DOJ charges are valid if Trump admits he lost 2020.

[u/ABHOR_pod → u/ithappenedone234]

Even if he didn't admit he lost the charges are valid. Everything about the election was run according to the law and the results were tallied according to the law. There is no law anywhere at all that says "If you don't like how the election ended there are certain circumstances in which it is ok to organize a violent attack on congress."

His grievances should have been settled in a court not a coup. He still wouldn't have gotten the white house back but at least he'd have one less set of felony charges going to trial right before his fourth(?) attempt at running for president.

[u/Corey307 → u/ABHOR_pod]

Whenever someone tries to deny the 2020 election results I remind them that the election was certified by the Department of Homeland Security. The DHS isn’t exactly some woke liberal antifa administration, it was a right wing response to the September 11 attacks. The head of homeland security in charge of certifying the 2020 election was a Trump appointee no less. 

[u/Goood_Daddy → u/Corey307]

Let's not forget all 50 states including many with republican governors and republican state admistrations certified the results and the electoral college votes.

[u/garagepunk65 → u/Goood_Daddy]

It’s going to be very different this time. They aren’t going to bother with fake electors, some states are going to outright fail to certify if Harris wins them.

They have already said as much. When Trump loses, the plan is to kick it up to the Supreme Court and we will be back to a Florida situation with Bush v. Gore with the same GQP victory.

The only way to avoid this is for Harris to win in a landslide.

[u/Dramatic_Cup_2834 → u/ABHOR_pod]

And it’s not like he didn’t try to settle his grievances in the courts. There was something like 60 lawsuits filed in the aftermath of the election. Trump went 0-60(ish) not winning a single one.

There was exactly 1 motion that was granted which said “yes you can have poll watchers at the counting offices”… but that was never really an issue, it was just a quick win to give them a piece of paper to wave in front of the news to say “look the courts agree with us that this is fraudulent! I have a postive opinion from a judge right here!” All of the actual suits were thrown out very quickly, almost all with prejudice.

[u/MalcolmInTheMudhole → u/ABHOR_pod]

If Trump actually believed that he won the 2020 election and there’d been a nationwide conspiracy in which thousands of people collaborated with such competence & efficiency, no actionable evidence was found… If Trump truly bought into the idea that the presidential election was “rigged,” he’s too delusional and/or unintelligent to be making decisions that affect the world.

[u/Wenger2112 → u/ABHOR_pod]

His grievances were heard in court. 61 times as I recall. And not one shred of evidence to support his crusade.

And just like Fox News - they know they can incite millions to do whatever they want through fear and lies - all for money and personal gain.

[u/Burnbrook → u/minkey-on-the-loose]

"You knew I was a snake!" -Guess who

[u/blorbschploble → u/minkey-on-the-loose]

That one kills me. Trump has always said he’s the scorpion. Every sane person went “yup, ok, don’t make that guy president”

[u/Tiadagh → u/blorbschploble]

Pleased to meet you

Hope you guess my name

But what's troubling you

Is the nature of my game

[u/cloneofGary → u/minkey-on-the-loose]

The poem he recites at rally’s?

[u/minkey-on-the-loose → u/cloneofGary]

Irony is dead, but yes.

[u/Gdigger13 → u/minkey-on-the-loose]

"Lol" said the scorpion, "lmao".

[u/WallabyInTraining → u/minkey-on-the-loose]

Like the frog and scorpion except the scorpion doesn't drown because he has a boat made out of money and also owns the supreme Court.

[u/Organic-Specific-500 → u/WallabyInTraining]

foreign adversary money

[u/rsc999 → u/Organic-Specific-500]

And stupid American people money.

[u/subaru_sama → u/minkey-on-the-loose]

It's that riddle where you have to get the frog, the scorpion, and the face-eating leopard across the river.

[u/FGFlips → u/subaru_sama]

Also the river is on fire. And the other person in the boat with you keeps punching holes in it.

And it's somehow all because of a Drag Queen reading nursery rhymes at a library.

[u/SaulTNNutz → u/minkey-on-the-loose]

"Here's a giant shitburger to eat. Trust me, it tastes great."  Trump just admitted he shit on the burger so now they have to stop pretending it was delicious.

[u/Emotional_Burden → u/minkey-on-the-loose]

"lol" said the Scorpion, "lmao"

[u/cabbage_peddler → u/minkey-on-the-loose]

Will no Leapard rid me of this turbulent face?

[u/DocAvidd → u/NCMathDude]

Anyone with an ounce of thinking skill knew he lost. First of all it was the USA. Secondly, he was profoundly unpopular, has been since 2018 or earlier. Lost 5 dozen times in court. Never any evidence.

But why flippy flop on it now? His advisors are correct, everyone is sick of whiny complain "poor me I'm such a weak victim, even Joe Biden pwns my ass." Strategically, he should have just quit complaining.

The vast numbers of people who took a fall for him, Fuentes has a point. Except the big lie was so hard to swallow, not even a single district, let alone 5 whole states. He lost by the same "landslide" he beat Clinton.

[u/smiama6 → u/DocAvidd]

Fuentes didn’t fall for anything. Republicans and Trumpers like him know exactly who Trump is. Behind closed doors they know he’s a loser and a moron. But they’ve made a fortune off of his shtick and are angry now that their livelihood is in danger because Trump himself exposed the lies.

[u/Quick1711 → u/smiama6]

This 👆

Trump is a brand. Their brand is in jeopardy of being lost. Therefore, their revenue is also in jeopardy of being lost.

Its the same point of Trump controlling the voting base to remove politicians from their jobs if they go against him. McCain, Cheney, Romney....it doesn't matter if their views don't directly align with yours. These were the people keeping the crazies in check.

Now, there is trailer trash in government.

[u/Cornmunkey → u/Quick1711]

It’s all very similar to the Q Anon horseshit. It was all a lie, but people pushed it because they could cash in and sell shirts, flags, books, bumper stickers and various other things. The second Biden won and the “Storm” or whatever nonsense didn’t happen, boom. Radio Silence. Trump may not be smart, but holy fuck is he a shill.

[u/peskypedaler → u/Cornmunkey]

Man, my next door neighbor slurps up ALL the conspiracy theories like a bear on spilled honey. I'm quite sure she has shelled over tons of cash for the latest grift from these guys. Amazing and tragic. They truly believe in an alt reality, and that THEY are the "ones who know" the real truth. Frightening.

[u/HybridPS2 → u/peskypedaler]

they so desperately want to be part of something that they latch on to those fringe ideas. it's very sad.

[u/Oberon_Swanson → u/HybridPS2]

I think it's being part of something but also being an 'individual' that stands above the normal person. They like the 'red pill' analogy because they literally want to feel like they are The One, a chosen hero of the world who can't be fooled or manipulated. And they probably wish to feel that way more strongly than the average person BECAUSE they have been easily fooled and manipulated in the past and someone giving them that feeling of seeing beyond the veil and trickery, they are no longer Just A Normal Person.

[u/jrob323 → u/Quick1711]

THERE IS NOT TRAILER TRASH IN GOVERNMENT! AND STOP TALKING ABOUT MARJORIE TRAILER QUEEN I MEAN TAYLOR GREEN AND LAUREN BOEBERT!!

[u/DocAvidd → u/Quick1711]

That's why I think Trump and his campaign are making "own goal" errors. Strategically, he does need to quit being a whiner. It's pathetic to see the man so helpless.

But notice that he's been the one bringing up 2020, and lesser 2018 & 2022, rally after rally. As if the most defining moments of MAGA was losing. Just shut up about it.

[u/Pathfinder6227 → u/smiama6]

Bingo. Nor does Fuentes care for any of the J6 people. There are two types of people. Those in the grift and those getting grifted. Fuentes is in on the grift.

[u/Mental_Medium3988 → u/smiama6]

dont forget that at least as far back as 2015 paul ryan knew that trump and at least Rohrabacher were taking russian money but kept it secret because you know theyre fanily.

[u/5PQR → u/smiama6]

Fuentes didn’t fall for anything. Republicans and Trumpers like him know exactly who Trump is.

Your comment prompted me to rack my brain for examples of good faith Trump supporters who have any public prominence. I could only think of Mike Lindell, as nutty as he is/was he did at least strike me as genuine. Literally every single other one comes across like a shameless grifter, just out to take advantage of stupid/ignorant people.

[u/Habitwriter → u/DocAvidd]

Why would you rig the presidential election and not the house and senate too? This is the biggest question that never gets asked

[u/Peking-Cuck → u/Habitwriter]

Fascism requires your enemies to be simultaneously strong and weak, brilliant and dumb. "Those dastardly Dems running the deep state rigged the election, thankfully they are inept at rigging elections so we can beat them!" or something like that.

[u/asmallerflame → u/Peking-Cuck]

"The vaccine is a hoax, but also Donald Trump deserves credit for it because it's brilliant."

"Bob Mueller wrote a beautiful report that exonerates me. Don't listen to what he says now, he can't be trusted. But trust his report, which exonerates me fully."

[u/DocAvidd → u/Habitwriter]

Yeah, red districts stayed red except for president. I guess that's how bad the DNC is at forgery!

[u/newyearnewaccountt → u/DocAvidd]

Secondly, he was profoundly unpopular,

But everyone in my rural county has Trump signs, I didn't see ANY Biden signs at any of the other 24 houses in the district!

[u/ArdentFecologist → u/DocAvidd]

Trump always puts out multiple contradicting messages so that those that are completely uniformed might only get one version and be: ok, 'that doesn't sound so bad'

If they come across the contradiction, they can say : see?! Fake news media!

For the bath faithers (most of them at this point) they know to isolate on the message that is convenient for the moment and simply pretend the rest don't exist. If they get challenged they can choose whatever option will serve them best as the 'true' interpretation. 'Oh, you just don't get what he really means!'

Keep in mind these is no good faith arguing at this point. Only the most completely sheltered or knowingly bad faith actors are left. They do not argue to convince, but to ofuscste and by arguing for arguments sake, their completely ficticious side gains validity when argued as a legitimate position.

[u/zeptillian → u/DocAvidd]

There were literally dozens of chances to present any kind of evidence for the claims in court.

Unsurprisingly, non was ever presented.

[u/trailsman → u/NCMathDude]

Just wait, they're literally going to repeat history if Trump loses again.

They are already sewing the seeds, talking about fraud left and right despite there being virtually no fraud whatsoever.

[u/rif011412 → u/trailsman]

Well I mean fake republicans electors prove they were ready to commit fraud.  It’s just they are stupid and poorly managed fraudsters.

The moment Republicans use their ghoulish lack of integrity and couple it with smart intelligent design, is when we get fucked and have their rape baby.

[u/Pathfinder6227 → u/trailsman]

If they try to storm the Capitol again, they can expect to face much stiffer resistance since 1.) Everyone expects it. 2.) Trump is not in charge of the Federal Government now. And 3.) An example was made out of the original group of idiots. I kind of expect they won’t be that stupid, but these are extraordinarily stupid people.

I fully expect TrumpWorld to try the same “law fare” they tried before and it seems like they are gearing up for that.

[u/Previous-Cook → u/trailsman]

sowing*

[u/Ok_Recording_4644 → u/NCMathDude]

They all knew he lost they just couldn't handle it

[u/255001434 → u/Ok_Recording_4644]

It was weaponized mass denial.

[u/TreePretty → u/255001434]

It still is. If Trump tomorrow says he was just kidding or didn't say that, it will be as if it never happened.

[u/idreamofgreenie → u/TreePretty]

And if he doesn't say that tomorrow, it will still be like it never happened.

[u/InConvienantDoof → u/NCMathDude]

In the statement, it's clear he's not upset that Trump lied to begin with, he's upset that Trump admitted it--like he created a gap in their (admittedly paper-thin) armor. Strategically, he needed the lie to keep going.

[u/dipfearya → u/NCMathDude]

Wait until Trump (Hopefully) loses. All the rats will jump ship, claiming zero knowledge.

[u/ShootinAllMyChisolm → u/dipfearya]

We keep claiming this but it’s been six years and they keep not jumping ship. When you’re all in on a lie it’s hard to back out.

Even though this would be the easiest back out. Just shut up and don’t vote for the guy. No one would know you didn’t vote for the orange one.

[u/Brissy2 → u/ShootinAllMyChisolm]

Maybe that will just not vote. I can’t see the diehard MAGAs voting for Harris.

[u/Daxx22 → u/Brissy2]

Much like an angry leftist over Gaza not voting is essentially a vote for Trump, an angry MAGA over admitting this not voting is a vote for Harris.

The less engaged/involved the moronic extremes are the better.

[u/vand3lay1ndustries → u/dipfearya]

Nah, he’ll immediately begin campaigning for 2028. 

[u/DodgerWalker → u/vand3lay1ndustries]

And be a clear favorite for the nomination.

[u/EliteLevelJobber → u/vand3lay1ndustries]

He kind of has to. Not just for his ego but also because grifting his supporters is a very important revenue stream for him.

I think the idea that his voters will ever see him as a loser is very overrated. And because of americas electoral system, he'll always have a chance. Especially as a lot of media would spend a Harris Presidency absolutely savaging her.

It's not over till he dies or is so unwell that he can't really appear in public. People think that will be someday soon, but rich ghouls (even ones living on junk food) live a long time.

[u/Neat-Professor-827 → u/dipfearya]

They will dig up his skeleton and run him for the next 20 years...either that or run his creepy progeny. Don Jr. Puke.

[u/janzeera → u/dipfearya]

They’re just like him. Looking for someone to blame for their misfortune (to continue their grift). Now, there’s only one left to blame.

[u/fluffygryphon → u/NCMathDude]

Yeah. He absolutely did. Trump's shedding support not because people were "duped". He's shedding support because he's losing and the writing is on the wall. Assholes like Nick faking outrage will just go back to the usual shit and latch onto another popular figure.

[u/jazzjustice → u/NCMathDude]

https://youtu.be/wcY_c6F8szw?t=18

[u/CaptainBugwash → u/NCMathDude]

Err, I think was all covered here:

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt22306998/

[u/DifferentlyTiffany → u/NCMathDude]

Facts. He's just mad Trump is making a desperate dash towards the center, once again pushing nazis to the fringes of American politics. Thank God

[u/dallasmav40 → u/NCMathDude]

Some of them are probably genuinely stupid enough to believe he won but most were sore losers

[u/T_Shurt]

Watch the video here

As per original article 📰:

• White Supremacist Neo-Nazi Nick Fuentes — who notoriously dined with and entertained anti-Semitism-spouting entertainer/entrepreneur Kanye West and former President Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago — raged at Trump for his recent admissions that he lost the 2020 election.

A few weeks ago, Trump told reporters, in an aside at a press event, that “I got many millions more votes than I got the first time, but didn’t quite make it, just a little bit short.”

Since then he has added some caveats about “cheating,” but has made the same admission on multiple occasions.

In a rant during his podcast, Fuentes lashed out at Trump over the sacrifices of his followers and Fuentes’s own tribulations, and said Trump’s admission validates the criminal charges against him:

It’s just it’s just really sad.

And the, the, 2020 comment, it’s like, wow! That’s how pathetic it’s gotten. He’s admitting, he says, “oh, I lost by a whisker.”.

So what was the point? Like, what’s the point of any of it? You lost in 2020? Seriously? What are we even doing anymore?

Then you’re a loser! Then you’re. You’re a loser. You just lost. Then you lost to Joe Biden. You deserve to be charged! If you. If he admits that he lost, then that actually vindicates the DoD or I’m sorry, the DOJ charge against him because the charge is that he knew he lost, but he lied to defraud the people! That’s the that’s the DOJ charge.

So why did we do stop the steal? Why did anyone go to January 6th? Why is anyone sitting in jail? Why did anything bad happen to anybody? Why did everyone get censored? Why is everything bad that has happened to the people that are involved? Why did that need to happen? If you’re just going to walk it all back and say, “oh, I lost.”

Well, that would have been good to know that before 1600 people got charged! It would have been good to know that before I had all my money frozen, put out a no fly list, banned from everything, lost all banking and payment processing!

Would have been good to know that. Before I, you know, in 2017, dedicated my life to this as an 18 year old in college. Just feels like a big rip off!

And don’t get me wrong, I’m an adult. I’m not. It’s not whining. I’m not complaining about it. I’m saying you can’t say those things for that reason.

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[u/meorcee → u/T_Shurt]

Little Mr. Fuentes is so god damn close to realizing the absolute sham his party/ideology is

[u/jadrad → u/meorcee]

No, they all know they’re liars.

In the same podcast “interview” Trump gave yesterday where he admitted to losing the election, he also said he knows Kamala isn’t a communist, but he calls her one because he needs to play dirty to win.

Just outright says he’s a liar who deceives the American public.

And the corporate news media still report his lies verbatim to the American people without prebutting every accusation he makes as lies.

For-profit news and journalism is a cancer on democracy.

[u/nightsaysni → u/jadrad]

Is there tape of that? Tried searching for that part; but wasn’t able to find it. It’s gold.

[u/jadrad → u/nightsaysni]

Literally the first thing he talks about in the introduction.

https://lexfridman.com/donald-trump-transcript/

Lex Fridman (00:00:00) I don’t know if you know this, but some people call you a fascist.

Donald Trump (00:00:03) Yeah, they do. So I figure it’s all right to call them a communist. Yeah, they call me a lot worse than I call them.

Lex Fridman (00:00:08) A lot of people listening to this, myself included, that doesn’t think that Kamala is a communist.

Donald Trump (00:00:15) I believe you have to fight fire with fire.

Lex Fridman (00:00:17) Politics is a dirty game.

Donald Trump (00:00:19) It is a dirty game. That’s certainly true.

For the record, Kamala Harris has never publicly called Trump a fascist, so again, he’s just shamelessly lying to try and justify his own despicable behavior - this inexperienced hack “interviewing” him never pushes back once against Trump’s vomit of lies and false narratives.

[u/SpareWire → u/jadrad]

Of course that Billionaire's sycophant wanted to interview him why am I not surprised.

Lex loves his rich buddies, he wouldn't dare ask them a hard hitting question or push back on their little club in any context.

The only time I have ever seen him push back on an interviewee is when he is defending his buddy Rogan.

[u/PensiveinNJ → u/SpareWire]

Lex Friedman is the most useless interviewer in the business. He's where you go if you want to make sure you get plenty of time to say whatever you want with no pushback. The interviews are boring. They're just softball after softball after softball.

[u/Villain__7 → u/jadrad]

The dude gets asked what he plans to do about Ukraine and gives no fucking answer. I swear those STDs he gets from all those little girls gave him brain damage and his disease spread to almost half the U.S. voting base.

[u/tablecontrol → u/Villain__7]

I swear those STDs he gets from gave all those little girls

[u/TheBirminghamBear → u/jadrad]

It's CYA all the way down.

He's not mad that Trump tricked him. He's mad that Trump's no longer helping him maintain the lie.

Their biggest fallacy is ever believing Trump was a part of a movement. Trump does not care.

Like some of these people are horrible people but they do believe in something bigger than themselves. They fee like they're part of a movement or a mission.

Trump isn't that. He is a black hole and he will suck everything inside himself forever.

[u/Appropriate_Fun10 → u/meorcee]

He just said that Trump isn't "allowed" to say the truth because of what others have sacrificed for him.

It was gratifying to learn that all those terrible things happened to him. That's Justice.

[u/PuckSR → u/Appropriate_Fun10]

Thats the bonkers part that bothered me.

He essentially said; I dont care if it is true, at this point there are too many consequences for your lies, you need to keep lying.

[u/gentlemanidiot → u/PuckSR]

Ya nick said that cause it affected him personally, otherwise he wouldn't give a shit whose faces the leopards were eating

[u/krucz36 → u/meorcee]

No Fuentes is all in and a complete liar and mutant. He knows the game and lies relentlessly as a method to achieve power. All he wants is power, so he can hurt people. He's a literal nazi.

[u/Runes_the_cat → u/T_Shurt]

This is fucking priceless.

[u/NotAllOwled → u/Runes_the_cat]

"I'M NOT WHINING!!!" he whined, knocking the pieces off the game board as his tears welled  up.

[u/sozcaps → u/NotAllOwled]

"I'm not weird! And I'm very manly!!"

[u/Available_Slide1888 → u/sozcaps]

Cut to Kyle Rittenhouse in 3.. 2...1...

[u/PokerChipMessage → u/Runes_the_cat]

I don't think people understand what Nick is saying here. He is explaining to Trump and his audience why conservatives need to never not pretend that their chosen reality is the real reality.

For all the bullshit, Nick is smart. He knows Trumps power was derived in part by his insistence on never admitting he was wrong.

[u/Runes_the_cat → u/PokerChipMessage]

I've been waiting for someone on their side to say something. And here is the Nazi, saying it. Really saying it. And saying it well. I don't know what his audience is exactly, so I don't know if the more normal Trump voters will hear it. But they should hear it.

[u/TruRateMeGotMeBanned → u/T_Shurt]

Oh, Nick. You’re riiiight there. You’re so close. Connect that dot, bud. You can do it.

[u/Giblette101 → u/TruRateMeGotMeBanned]

Fuentes had connected the dots. Lying about the dots is how he makes money. 

[u/ClockworkDreamz → u/T_Shurt]

I’m laughing so hard.

[u/descendency → u/T_Shurt]

Hopefully Jack Smith has a copy of that admission.

[u/fionacielo → u/T_Shurt]

if he seriously believed trump… I just… don’t know? I can’t relate to that at all, but it is nice to hear t everyone slowly realize they got had. welcome back to reality, the coming apologies are going to suck for you.

[u/love_glow → u/fionacielo]

There will be no apologies. They will simply move onto the next grifter that catches their eye.

[u/time_then_shades → u/love_glow]

Honestly, they can worship all the grifters they want. I give two shits. Just keep them out of the shit that makes our society run.

[u/ThrowawayPersonAMA → u/T_Shurt]

Funny how it's still him focusing on how it affects him. He doesn't care about the "1600 charged". The only reason he's crying now is because:

I had all my money frozen, put out a no fly list, banned from everything, lost all banking and payment processing!

He fucked around and found out. What a dumb douchebag.

[u/RogerClyneIsAGod2 → u/T_Shurt]

Whiny Baby whines, don't need to watch or read. Someone needs to change his diapey, give him a nice warm baba, find his Woobie & put him in his crib early tonite.

[u/Red-Leader-001]

I love this so much. Thanks Nick.

[u/carmackie → u/[deleted]]

That's so gracious of you! I hope he appreciates it (if he regains consciousness)

[u/PyllicusRex → u/carmackie]

I reserve the right to give him the other four once he wakes up.

[u/carmackie → u/PyllicusRex]

I really appreciate that! I'm secretly hoping he won't ❤️

(Here comes the Reddit warning lol)

[u/WintertimeFriends → u/[deleted]]

Just gonna drop this here

[u/PyllicusRex → u/WintertimeFriends]

Makes me smile every time. I’d like this country to back to a time when punching Nazis is acceptable again.

Also…he really dropped off after that huh? Haven’t heard from him in years.

[u/SarcasticOptimist → u/PyllicusRex]

Proves it really is effective.

[u/Grand_Escapade → u/[deleted]]

Oh look, the nazis are desperately begging authority to remove your comment

[u/Yes-Please-Again]

I know those people got manipulated. But I feel so often like, how the hell could you get manipulated by something so stupidly obvious? At what point is it your fault? This guy is obviously a liar. At some point it's not just his fault anymore. When you're breaking through a window at the Capitol because trump said there was cheating without providing evidence, it's your fault now. You're also a traitor.

[u/socialcommentary2000 → u/Yes-Please-Again]

They simply do not aggregate information from multiple streams like literally every single other differently inclined person does. It's really quite scary when it comes to bog standard lead eating Boomers and right wingers in total...They just do not look outside their own bubble because they've been consistently primed to think that everything other than their carnival barker huckster idols is lying or in some sort of conspiracy against them.

[u/haysoos2 → u/socialcommentary2000]

Which, perhaps not surprisingly, is also a hallmark of cult indoctrination.

[u/time_then_shades → u/haysoos2]

Just wait until you find out what most of these people do every Sunday morning.

[u/aqwn → u/time_then_shades]

Probably involves molesting kids

[u/boltzmannman → u/aqwn]

now you're talking like a trump supporter

[u/TrumpersAreTraitors → u/socialcommentary2000]

This is the danger of religion, particularly Christianity. You’re conditioned literally your entire life not to question, not to doubt, not to think critically and so you just don’t. You lose the ability to think for yourself. 

[u/BonnaconCharioteer → u/TrumpersAreTraitors]

You don't lose it. Strangely enough, it is still there, and those who break free from those worldviews can become just as conscious and questioning as anyone else. Not only that, but they can be insightful and questioning on some issues, which is why you get people who seem otherwise smart, but are completely consumed by these situations.

I think the issue is that they must create a place in their mind for "Things that will not be questioned." And that lets them live with the cognitive dissonance of their religion. The problem is, it is easy to put other things in there, like politics. Especially when the Republican party has been trying so hard to link politics and religion, and religious leaders often do the same in the other direction.

[u/mothfactory → u/TrumpersAreTraitors]

I would say this is not particular to Christianity. All religions pretty much require this from their adherents

[u/Giblette101 → u/Yes-Please-Again]

They didn't get manipulated. They wanted to believe these things very hard and they decided to. 

[u/armchairwarrior42069 → u/Giblette101]

This is the line for me.

I have a lot of empathy for the people the right exploits. The "I love the uneducated" version I mean. I lived in poverty. Lights out. Hot water off. No internet. No computer. Shoes? Yes. Shoelaces? Not for a few weeks when we can afford it.

People who live like this are so painfully angry and sad. Give them a bad guy to rally against. Years of frustration and defeat to let out at a level a lot of people can't relate to or come close to u derstandong.

Cool. Okay. I got ya.

Okay, now why was trump and him clearly representing all of the failings thst helped you get to this depressing life, was a solution?

Because it's better to blame the browns, the gays, the women, etc. Because you already felt that way.

Idunno, this became a ramble. In short, fuck these guys. They made several choices, received every warning and tool to make a better decision and chose not to. Fuck you for it.

[u/time_then_shades → u/armchairwarrior42069]

Because you already felt that way.

Fucking preach. Folks are out here being naive like it's the first season of The Walking Dead. "Oh, maybe they can still come back! We can help them!" Nope. They're gone. It's shitty. But that doesn't make living around them any less dangerous.

[u/Peking-Cuck → u/Giblette101]

Yeah, anyone who feels an ounce of sympathy for them is just setting the stage for it to happen again.

[u/TreePretty → u/Yes-Please-Again]

We can't even start thinking about having nice things until we stop excusing evil people as just 'manipulated' or 'misguided'.

[u/thecheapseatz → u/TreePretty]

Exactly, these people have been showing us who they are for over 4 years now, if you're still giving them the benefit of the doubt you're part of the problem

[u/TheJaytrixReloaded → u/Yes-Please-Again]

Because they stay in the Fox/Conservative bubble and they don't hear real news and are pushed propaganda. Fox and Republicans are just as accountable as Trump.

[u/TreePretty → u/TheJaytrixReloaded]

That's by choice though. They choose all day, every day, to tune out and ignore anything that doesn't reinforce their violent psychosis.

[u/sureal42]

TRUMP DOES NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT ANYONE NOT NAMED DONALD J TRUMP...

how hard is this to figure out...

[u/no_infringe_me → u/sureal42]

Not true. He doesn’t really care about his son either.

[u/sureal42 → u/no_infringe_me]

Because he's "Donald J TRUMP Jr". The Jr is an important distinction as it means he is not in fact "Donald J trump"

Both are pieces of shit

[u/no_infringe_me → u/sureal42]

They share a name, the Jr lets you know which is is next in the naming sequence. Referring to Jr as just Donald Trump or Donald John Trump is perfectly acceptable.

But you are right, he isn’t the Trump we are looking for, thus “Trump doesn’t give a fuck about anyone not named Donald J Trump” isn’t true, because even that statement is too forgiving.

Trump only gives a fuck about himself.

[u/RockStar25 → u/sureal42]

He wants to give fucks to Ivanka Trump.

[u/JavierBorden]

Anyone who thought sending a mob to attack Congress would trigger a spontaneous revolution to install Trump as dictator for life has been reading Ayn Rand too much.

[u/whitethunder9 → u/JavierBorden]

Well, to their discredit, none of them actually read anything, they just hear things from people who hear things from people who once upon a time actually still read things. Good chance the ones who actually read things are now dead.

[u/Notapplesauce11 → u/whitethunder9]

They can’t even pronounce ayn rand properly 

[u/yadawhooshblah → u/JavierBorden]

Reading the book cover is reading Ayn Rand too much.

[u/vand3lay1ndustries → u/yadawhooshblah]

My 9th grade daughter just got her list of books for this year, and in a district that has been the epicenter for recent book bans, they’re having her read Anthem.

There’s even a disclaimer on the permission slip to opt out of reading Romeo and Juliet if the parents don’t approve of its “sexual connotations.”

Tells me everything I need to know about the teacher, but since she read The Grapes of Wrath, To Kill a Mockingbird, and The Diary of Anne Frank last year, I think she’s going to have some challenging questions about Ayn Rand.

[u/Urrsagrrl → u/vand3lay1ndustries]

When they’re into the Shakespeare section, look at the CSPAN schedule and sit down and watch the UK Parliament broadcasts to show how language repartee, rhetoric still exists in our modern day.

[u/vand3lay1ndustries → u/Urrsagrrl]

This is a great idea, thanks

[u/Impossible-Ad-3060 → u/vand3lay1ndustries]

No one needs my opinion about them, but Mockingbird and Grapes are both so fucking good. I can’t wait to read them again with my kids.

[u/yadawhooshblah → u/vand3lay1ndustries]

Nevermind the sexual connotations, Shakespeare is just difficult English. I keep big ass complications books of both Shakespeare and Poe so that I can appear intellectual, but Poe is SO much easier to read.

[u/dogstarchampion → u/yadawhooshblah]

I read the cover of Atlas, but by the second word, I bounced off it. 

Kidding, though my 10th grade self got about 30 pages into Atlas Shrugged before I never picked it back up.

[u/yadawhooshblah → u/dogstarchampion]

The cover of a book, and it's jacket has one purpose. It's so that you can judge it enough to buy it. I prefer the one that says "Don't Panic".

[u/alohalii → u/JavierBorden]

trigger a spontaneous revolution

That was not the plan. The plan was for the mob to delay the certification of the vote. Then Mike Pence was supposed to choose the fake slate of electors.

The mob succeeded in delaying the certification of the election so they were 100% successful.

Mike Pence on the other hand did not play along with the plan and certified the election with the real slate of electors thus blocking Trumps plan.

The mob attacking Congress was just one part of a larger plan. Nothing spontaneous about it.

[u/KlingonSexBestSex → u/alohalii]

Exactly. Pence was supposed to play along, or failing that the pressure of the mob would drive Pence to seek security and then the Secret Service would tell him to get in his armored car for his safety, then whisk him away. He could then be declared absent and the plot could proceed without him with a MAGA replacement.

But Pence wouldn't play along and when he fled the mob and the USSS agents told him to get in the car he refused, saying he didn't trust them for shit (he was afraid that getting whisked away would end with him never being seen again). He returned and finished certifying the results, thus losing trump's 'friendship' forever.

[u/MacManus47 → u/JavierBorden]

Or the Turner Diaries.

[u/-_kAPpa_- → u/JavierBorden]

Trump didn’t even think that, that wasn’t his plan. His plan was just to use the protesters to pressure Mike Pence

[u/SirBexley]

I'm more likely to spit on than agree with a Neo-Nazi, but I'll make an exception this time. I totally agree with him, Trump is pathetic and let people fight and die knowing full well that he was feeding them horse shit the entire time.

So, EVERYONE hates Trump now? Can we just give Trump a fake 'get out of jail free' card if he promises to drop out. We can tell him we left the card under the big net in the park, then bam!

[u/tpatmaho → u/SirBexley]

I hope he doesn't drop out. I'd like to see him soundly beaten.

[u/dawinter3 → u/tpatmaho]

His pathetic ego would never let him drop out.

[u/ZippoS → u/dawinter3]

If/when he loses the election, we all know he’s going to claim it was stolen — again. It’ll be nonstop until people either wake up to the bullshit or the turd kicks the bucket.

[u/dawinter3 → u/ZippoS]

They’re more organized to steal the election this time, too. They’ve spent the years since 2020 getting loyalists into the election apparatus everywhere in this country. Everyone else has spent that same time doing exactly nothing to try to prevent a repeat of Jan. 6 and all the empty legal challenges to the election. Many Republicans in Congress will not vote to certify the election if he loses. Even if the election is called for Harris in November, nothing is guaranteed.

[u/Vlad_the_Homeowner → u/SirBexley]

I'm more likely to spit on than agree with a Neo-Nazi, but I'll make an exception this time. I totally agree with him,

Really? I don't agree with him at all. I can see two interpretations in what he said. The way he ends this paragraph highlights the first:

So why did we do stop the steal? Why did anyone go to January 6th? Why is anyone sitting in jail? Why did anything bad happen to anybody? Why did everyone get censored? Why is everything bad that has happened to the people that are involved? Why did that need to happen? If you’re just going to walk it all back and say, “oh, I lost.”

It's not about the fact it was all bullshit, he knows and accepts that, he's just pissed that Trump admitted it before the election. He's pissed because it calls him out on his bullshit and makes him look like an idiot.

The other interpretation is the one most are echoing. That he actually believed it and now feels betrayed. But even if that were the case, that's bullshit. There was an overwhelming amount of evidence, confirmed in 60-some court cases that he lost, members of his organization that discuss his incompetence and admit he lost, and of course a complete lack of any evidence to support the theory other than the musings of a crack-addict that sells pillows. The only people who believe this crap are those in on the grift and the truly dumb.

[u/bentreflection → u/Vlad_the_Homeowner]

Yes i think people are misinterpreting him. He always knew it was a lie. He is angry now that Trump isn't bothering to keep lying about it because Fuentes dedicated his life to that lie and risked a lot to try and install a dictator in the United States because he thought Trump would advance his neo-nazi agenda.

[u/orochi_crimson → u/SirBexley]

Why not both?

[u/maskedbanditoftruth → u/SirBexley]

What, so Vance can take over the ticket? They’d vote for him to redeem Trump and we’d be ruled by Emperor Couchfluffer.

[u/Stodles → u/SirBexley]

Can we just give Trump a fake 'get out of jail free' card if he promises to drop out. We can tell him we left the card under the big net in the park, then bam!

Or we could just let him scuttle away to Venezuela like he promised... I'm sure Maduro will be thrilled to have the guy who offered a reward for his arrest come over for a visit.

[u/AreWeCowabunga]

What could go wrong taking compulsive liar Trump’s word for so long that the election was rigged instead of believing the objective facts?

[u/Sugarysam]

I’ve never believed anything out of Fuentes’ mouth, and don’t know why I would now. Just a rat jumping off a sinking ship.

[u/calvn_hobb3s → u/Sugarysam]

Perfect analogy 🐀 

[u/TheSwordDusk → u/Sugarysam]

He's making this statement intentionally to cover his ass in my opinion

[u/suninabox → u/Sugarysam]

Just a rat jumping off a sinking ship.

It doesn't even rise to that level of courage or straightforwardness.

This is just Fuentes trying to bait attention by saying something ostensibly "reasonable" that will upset a lot of people. You see how it works in this thread with people saying "it says something when I'm agreeing with a nazi!".

He'll be back talking about how Trump is the only hope for the white race in a week.

Alex Jones does a similar schtick.

Within their respective audiences there are anti-establishment contrarians who even Trump is too establishment for, so they need to burnish their credentials as free thinking iconoclasts by occasionally saying something critical of Trump to get attention and then row it back later to keep the MAGA faithful on side.

[u/signalfire]

That look on his face - it isn't indignation about being lied to; it's 'I'm loving all this attention, I can't believe people listen to this crap'. Wannabe Rush Limbaugh 2.0. Just. Like. Trump. Who once said 'I can't believe people don't call me on my bullshit. I just say anything that comes to mind and no one ever points and laughs.' That's what we need to do; Point and Laugh. This moron too; he's ruined his life just as thoroughly as that shooter yesterday, or any of the hundreds of 1/6 rioters, or the people who have spent $1000s on Trump merch instead of housing and an education.

[u/neal144]

Can we FINALLY charge Trump with Ashley Babbitt's death?

[u/cappwnington → u/neal144]

In Florida if someone dies while you're in commission of a crime they charge the co-defendants with murder. It happens relatively frequently during home invasions. We had an ex client at my law office that died along with 3 or 4 of his friends during an attempted robbery where the homeowner gunned them down with an AK47. Homeowner was never charged and the only survivor, the dude that drove them there, got convicted of murder for each of his friends that died.

This asshole, per the laws of the state he resides in, should be charged with every death and injury resulting from his behavior.

[u/NameLips]

The fascist takeover depends on a carefully constructed set of lies, a full alternate reality that has several foundational lies that all the other lies are built on.

The lie that Trump won the 2020 election is foundational. Everything else is built on it. That's why Jan 6 was justified. That's why Stop the Steal was justified. That's why everybody is willing to sacrifice their freedom and lives. It all has to have some level of internal consistency, so when they take over they can re-write the history books and pretend they all believed it was true all along.

Fuentes isn't angry at being deceived. Like most of them, he knew it was all a lie from the beginning. He was happy to play along because in his mind the end justified the means. And they'd rather have conservative fascism than liberal democracy.

But Trump is forgetting the playbook. He's worried about losing, even with the lies, so he's doing what he always does -- change his story to match his audience and hope he can get them on his side.

[u/Delicious_Tea3999]

It's weird to think of how many of his followers Trump has gotten not just arrested but killed. People really don't point that out enough. I can think of lots of Republians I despise...but most of them don't actively get their own fans shot dead.

[u/mistressusa]

Idk Nick but millions of Americans knew Trump was lying. Maybe you are just low-IQ?

[u/1732PepperCo → u/mistressusa]

He is a white supremacist with a Hispanic last name….can’t be the brightest bulb.

[u/magneta2024]

People died, got hospitalized, got incarcerated, got divorced…all for another gaslight and big lie of Trump to his followers. They should all be aware of this.

[u/Chad-GPT5]

Wait? They actually believe him. Doesn't excuse the actions. But that is just bizarre to me.

[u/CaptWyvyrn → u/Chad-GPT5]

No. They know he lost. They're pissed that he said it out loud. The whole charade was broken by that "whisker" comment. It took the wind out of their sails, to say the least. I really enjoyed watching Fuentes deflate like that.

[u/amboyscout → u/CaptWyvyrn]

"you can't say those things for that reason" gives it away. Fuentes is saying right there that it doesn't matter if it's true or not, Trump needs to keep his story straight and not let it slip that he lost.

[u/snarkaluff → u/Chad-GPT5]

That’s shocking to me tbh. I didn’t think they were stupid enough to actually believe the election was stolen. I thought everyone knew that Trump just can’t admit defeat and his followers were just supporting his delusion. I really underestimate how dumb these people are

[u/TheClawwww7667 → u/snarkaluff]

During the worst of Covid, we had nurses and doctors sharing that people who were dying/died from the virus were still refusing to believe that Covid was dangerous/real as they were in the process of being put on respirators to save their lives because Trump told them it wasn’t serious. They thought it had to be something else other than Covid that was killing them.

Even when some of these people were facing death, and I assume terrified, they believed what Donald Trump told them more than the health care professionals trying to save them.

That’s when I realized it was so much worse than I ever imagined.

[u/Silent_Vehicle_9163]

The conservative movement is not unlike a clown car.

[u/Someoneoverthere42]

He admitted it before. He'll deny it again

[u/Downtown-Frosting789]

oh man, whew. couldn’t stop laughing enough to comment… damn when the neo-nazi call out his lies…WOW. hope kamala leans into this, hard. :D

[u/CemeteryDweller7719]

If only the truth had been readily available! Oh, wait…

[u/CaptainChadwick]

He knew. Didn't care.

[u/glasshalfbeer]

So you agree that Trump incited those people to riot the capital under false pretense?

[u/caudicifarmer]

? Everybody ELSE knew...

[u/winetotears]

The simp will still vote for the orangesicle.

[u/wils_152]

"Nick Fuentes here! Hey so I said some things about Trump earlier, calling him out and saying I didn't trust him anymore. Great news! He rang me and explained that I can, in fact, totally trust him, so I now trust him again. TRUMP WON!"

[u/davidhumerful]

At 2 minutes and 50 seconds in; Fuentes says the quiet part out loud:

"I know everyone considers me to be an extremist, but I'm the logical conclusion of Trumpism since 2016"

[u/RoninX70]

I love it when they eat their own. Yummy.

[u/Northerngal_420]

Imagine how those 1,600 people feel.

[u/Speculawyer]

It is VERY funny when evil jerks finally figure out that they are just pathetic little pawns manipulated into ruining their lives for a con man. 😂

[u/Automatic-Pick-2481]

Oh wow the liar told a lie?

[u/Specialist-Fly-9446]

Why would he even go to Trump to learn about election results? Trump wasn't in charge of election results. The reason he believed Trump over the experts is because Trump told him what he wanted to hear.

[u/Umfriend]

But wait, the complaint is not that Trump lost, knew he lost, but rather that he admitted it. That that admission nullified the sacrifice (interpretation here) of the rioters. It would have been good to know that someday you'll cave.

Am I reading this right?

[u/Pizza_900deg]

I didn't need to rely on what Trump said about the election. I listened to election officials and I watched the news. What is this blame shifting nonsense that these people had no choice but to believe a twice impeached, serial lying, con man rapist.

[u/WloveW]

Odd plays going on amongst the grand old party these days. I can't keep track of who is still kissing whose ass, and who's turned a 180 and hates who they formerly worshipped. And when they do turn, why? For what reason? All of a sudden they care about lies? Nah. Rats off a sinking ship? Mebbe. They think they will make more money? Aha

[u/Ristar87]

Why are you going all shocked Pikachu face for? Literally, everyone that goes around that dude gets indicted for something or another.

[u/Youareobscure]

It would have been good to know that before I had all my money frozen, put out a no fly list, banned from everything, lost all banking and payment processing!

Oh, so that's why he's mad. Now his split with Trump makes sense.