r/facepalm • u/BoringStockAndroid • 28d ago
đ˛âđŽâđ¸âđ¨â Thoughts and prayers
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u/DarkestOfTheLinks 28d ago
it'll never be the time to discuss doing something to stop school shootings because the next one will happen before the mourning period for the last is over
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u/o-Valar-Morghulis-o 28d ago
1.5 mass shootings per day.
"It's not the time to discuss. We must mourn.".
Apparently, indefinitely at this rate.
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u/BOOM_Shooka_Luka 28d ago
Yet when summertime comes and the kids are finally out of school and as a result school shootings stop (sadly only because school has stopped, no other reason) so the morning can come to an organic end and itâs FINALLY time to take action and make sure that doesnât happen again they continue to do fuck all about it.
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u/thesilentbob123 28d ago
During the summer it's mall shootings, carnival shootings, parade shootings literally just anywhere people gather actually
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u/another_online_idiot 28d ago
"This is not the day to actually do anything constructive. We need to just be pretending to do something so no one will ask us why we didn't protect the children properly in the first place. "
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u/thieh 28d ago
"We need to remind everyone in a month or two that we will promise to do something if we get re-elected so we get elected not to do any of that."
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u/HectorJoseZapata 28d ago
The âletâs prayâ instead of doing something about it is one of the reasons I believe religions are about control of the masses and nothing else.
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u/Time_Faithlessness27 28d ago
I remember when I was in a really hard place in life and when I asked people for help, my family, they never offered any other help than prayers. When I pulled through they said âall those prayers workedâ. I said no, I turned to other people who actually helped me and I worked really hard to help myself. I stayed away from people like you and now I realize that I donât need any of you or your spiritual bypassing and gaslighting. Your prayers did nothing for me, but you will never acknowledge that because you will never give me credit for everything that I did to get what I needed. Which was real help from real people who believed in me, not some fictitious man in the sky. Fuck these religious creeps. These poor children were robbed of their lives, their mental health if they survived, and their families are never going to get their children back.
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u/ILootEverything 28d ago
People who "pray for you" but don't actually put actions behind their words are going against their own book...
What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him?  If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, âDepart in peace, be warmed and filled,â but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
James 2: 14-17
A big reason I left the church is because of this kind of thing. Modern evangelicals don't actually believe what they claim to believe, and the above is just one example.
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u/BlaBlamo 28d ago
Love when bible verses discredit terrible bible thumpers. Iâm not religious although I was raised going to church every Sunday, but itâs wild to me how devout religious folk donât follow the teachings of Jesus. All the people who claim to love him so much just hate and judge and shit on people. Or use the big book as an excuse to belittle and control people. Shits fucked.
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u/RileyCargo42 28d ago
And honestly even worse to me is when they claim they're "saving" you.
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u/NuclearBroliferator 28d ago
My new favorite is adorning the Good Book with a golden signature, throwing in some 250 year old exclusively American document, and selling it to pay for legal fees.
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u/DatabaseThis9637 28d ago
Clever little shite, eh? When it comes to pulling money out of the poor and uninformed, he's tops. So fortunate for this supposed billionaire, that his drones give him their rent money... because, well, I don't even know why?
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u/Nearby-Notice-4534 28d ago
That verse really is powerful, especially in this context. Enough with the Tâs & Pâs
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u/sua_sancta_corvus 28d ago
And, from the mouth of the man himself:
âSo if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there before the altar and go. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift.â - Matthew 5:23-24 (ESV)
God is offended, without a doubt, by that slimy, cowardly heart that refuses to do right by their neighbor but still wants to seem good and pious.
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u/SnooOnions3369 28d ago
I worked at a bakery and on Wednesday mornings there was a bible study group. I heard them talking and the gist of it was everything good in your life is bc of god and everything wrong is bc of what you have done. And I just think what a terrible way to live your life never getting any credit for the hard work you put in and the blame for everything else. Your story reminds me of that
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u/Glazing555 28d ago
Exactly. You âprayâ with your hands and feet. Action accomplishes, sitting and doing nothing gets you nowhere, but saying the unfortunately over used words âthoughts and prayersâ only makes people feel better about doing nothing.
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u/Brunurb1 28d ago
"thoughts and prayers are like masturbation, it feels good for the person doing it, but does nothing for the person they are thinking about"
-Abraham Lincoln (not really, I just don't know who)
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u/GluttonForGreenTea 28d ago
Incredible quote! Sounds like something George Carlin would have said
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u/findhumorinlife 28d ago
God I miss him. But I bet the last 8 years would have put him In his grave anyway. His mind would have exploded with the fodder of the Con Felonâs family, Vance nonsense, RFK jr nonsense, etc etc .
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u/yourlocal90skid 28d ago
I'd bet those people who offered nothing but prayers are the same ones who hold the mindset that you have to "pull yourself up by your bootstraps."
Absolutely ironic and a perfect example of cognitive dissonance.
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u/DontcheckSR 28d ago
This reminds me of a service I had to sit through where the preacher said God would help you through anything but he can't magically do everything for you and you have to make the effort. It's just that God will support you lol I was like....support me by doing what? You're LITERALLY telling people they have to make things happen on their own, yet are insisting that God is included in that. "He'll give you the strength to continue!" đ
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u/fatdickaaronhansen 28d ago
Also hilarious when you remember he did magically do everything in the bible
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u/Rubeus17 28d ago
The three toughest words to say are âI need help.â Iâm so glad you found that help. đŤśđź
Thoughts and prayers are useless.
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u/sugarfoot00 28d ago
As Ricky Gervais says, "prayer, and chemotherapy. It's important not to forget the chemotherapy".
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u/charlie2135 28d ago
Posted before but ran into a relative when my wife was going through breast cancer treatment (good now due to great doctors and nurses), and she said she was praying for her. I said, "Why? If God is responsible for everything, then he gave her the cancer, so he must not like her."
Her daughter, who must have put up with this most of her life, was trying to hold back her laughter as her mom was trying to comprehend this.
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u/TheSherlockCumbercat 28d ago
I hate the pushy religious people saying god cares. It does not take much brain power to realize if god exist they are either completely indifferent or a massive asshole.
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u/Razzberry_Frootcake 28d ago
I am not religious but the whole âpray instead of doâ thing is supposed to be bullshit to them too.
The concept of âGod helps those who help themselvesâ exists to show that people who only ask for help from an almighty power source without doing anything themselves are a problem. Theyâre either faking their belief in God for praise or they are being intentionally lazy and expecting God to make miracles happen without good reason.
Iâm not sure how itâs stated in texts or scriptures or whatever but I know itâs a core concept in faiths that involve prayer. They are literally supposed to physically help if someone asks for helpâŚnot pray.
Thatâs one big reason I donât trust those people.
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u/TinyChaco 28d ago
My granny told my mom if she prayed and believed in Jesus, her cancer would go away. Guess who died of cancer for not getting medical attention soon enough? Granny got hers later, though. Same thing as what my mom had, too. Fucking sick of this shit.
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u/DesmadreGuy 28d ago
"This is not the time to think about keeping innocent, unarmed children alive. This is a time to think about their bloody and mutilated dead bodies, their suffering families, and the communities who must find a way to carry on without them. What is wrong with you people, putting guns before people?"
â EveryGOPMAGA Legislator{JFC that's painful to write)
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u/MikeTheNight94 28d ago
Seeing what goes on at mega churches Iâll have to agree with you
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u/Internal_Second_8207 28d ago
What happens if a mass shooting goes on at a mega church?
iT AfFeCTs mE, NoW we nEEd tO Do SOmEtHiNg
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u/PDXMB 28d ago
âI know!!! Letâs hire armed security, just like Jesus did as he traveled the Holy Lands spreading his gospel of âIâve got mine, suckas!ââ
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u/prisonzulumike 28d ago
Alot of "mega churches" allow and encourage their congregation to conceal carry and have more security than your average American school. The resources to protect children are available at the state level, it's just not a priority for either side.
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u/airmclaren 28d ago
The school shootings and children dying of gun violence is all part of Godâs plan.
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u/maguffle 28d ago edited 28d ago
As a pastor, it's so frustrating and sad to me that people feel this way......however it's more frustrating and sad that I can see why people would feel this way.....đ
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u/LaddiusMaximus 28d ago
Sir I can say categorically that myself and my family will never attend a church service. Ever. Especially after the last few years. I cant truck with a religion that not only subdues critical thinking, but is to used to abuse and control others. To make people who are different afraid. That was used to justify my peoples enslavement. All respect to you and your beliefs, but the bad actors in christianity have all but ensured its eventual demise. I can treat others well, do good works, and be a good person without the threat of hellfire or my children being abused.
Im glad you understand why because it seems like a lot of you dont.
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u/Nelyahin 28d ago
As a Georgia resident - Iâm convinced the thoughts and prayers arenât enough to keep our kids safe.
I just had to have an awful conversation with both of my grandsons because they are scared to go to school. Itâs hard for me to give reassurance when Iâm scared for them.
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u/Inspect1234 28d ago
Wonder what would happen if all kids (backed by their parents) said No, weâre on strike until gun laws protect us.
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u/Kinetikat 28d ago
That would be cool. But part of me says the GOP would jump on that as an opportunity to completely shut down public schools and federal education system. See! They donât go to school! Stop funding education!
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u/hulfordmon 28d ago
Do the thoughts and prayers make the guns go away?
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u/Clickum245 28d ago
They clearly aren't praying hard enough.
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u/TBAnnon777 28d ago
You need to arm the prayers with guns, so they can shoot their way into heaven to be heard!
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u/No_Gur1113 28d ago
Pastor, as an atheist, I will always respect you and your beliefs. I will respect your right to have those beliefs. I will not belittle your belief system because that would be disrespectful to what you have devoted your life to. All humans deserve better than to be belittled for their lifeâs work if that work is done with a pure heart.
I am also human and I know that dirtbags exist in all career paths and callings. That you can understand why people feel this way is much more telling of the kind of clergy you are. And I donât think any of us who disagree with the teachings, or downright denounce religion as I have, have any issue whatsoever of the kind of religion you seem to partake in. Because you seem to have empathy. In my experience, most religions will preach empathy but not practice it.
Non believers arenât usually the stupid people in society. Atheists are generally fairly highly educated, practical thinkers. We can see the value of religious ceremonies during times of celebration and loss. We want people to have that. The problem most of us have is with people trying to force their own beliefs down our throats, and the lengths to which they will go to do so. And the way they want to use the word of God, which should be a beautiful, joyous thing, to control and hold people down who donât look like them or believe what they believe.
You seem pretty open to discussion and thatâs the kind of person we need heading up churches. Sadly, the reality weâre living in is that for every pastor like you, thereâs 3 wannabe Joel Osteens out there. And a sprinkle of actual dillholes making mad money just like him.
Those âdevoutâ preachers are completely alienating the people who could probably use the help of the kind of church that has you at the head of the congregation. The kind that actually gives a shit about helping people, not grifting them.
I am atheist, but I can pretty much guarantee you if anyone is looking at the commandments and considering empathy, understanding, and being a good human, a damn lot more atheists would end up at the pearly gates than devout. Because weâre nice people because we are genuinely nice. Not because weâre scared weâll go to hell.
Thank you for what you do, even if I choose to follow something different.
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u/Sinthe741 28d ago
You can only control your own actions. Just keep being the best pastor you can be.
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u/greg_08 28d ago
So, as a pastor, what is your plan specifically to guide the flock in the right direction?
âHe must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it.â -Acts 6:1-15
I am far from religious, but I am respectful, and willing to discuss othersâ points of views. This is a systemic issue we have throughout this entire country, and will get worse before it gets better unless many people step up to take action.
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org
Please understand the numbers behind the thoughts and prayers.
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u/maguffle 28d ago
I am staunchly against guns and I'm down here in Florida. Many of my parishioners have guns. That doesn't stop me from preaching against guns and the irreparable harm they cause. I'm also a chaplain at a level one trauma center. I have seen the aftermath of more gun violence than I care to recall. And many of those victims weren't even the intended target. I have to comfort the families of the people who just died senselessly because someone down the street had bad aim. I tell these stories in church sometimes. But generally, I preach and teach about love. And I try to lead my church down that path. Not only because to love is the greatest commandment, but I also think that leading with love will help to curb violence. I don't try to tell my church who or what to vote for, but I do encourage them to vote in every election and hope that the biblical call to love will influence how they vote.
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u/StrangeContest4 28d ago
"Sorry you lost your child in this preventable tragedy, but our hands are tied. Can't you see we're praying đ?"
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u/sadicarnot 28d ago
It always gets me when people talk about how god had a hand in something be it saving someone or allowing someone to win. By the grace of god someone survived but what about all of the people that died. Not only is it about control it is about supremacy as well. God is looking out for me but not you.
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u/ubottles65 28d ago
In a month or two, another school shooting will occur and they'll forget about this one.
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u/southernNJ-123 28d ago
Are you kidding.End of the day TODAY we will have moved on to the next one.
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u/Tambo1983 28d ago
Itâs never the time for change in policy with these jokers! I wonder how they would feel if their kid was gunned down!
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u/Sirquack1969 28d ago
Won't ever happen, their kids are likely in religious private schools and actually have proper locks on the entry ways.
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u/Tinker107 28d ago
âGodâs will. Heâs in a better place now.â Weâve all heard it, havenât we?
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u/Alternative_Edge_651 28d ago
I always say the same thing. The moment the kid of one of the Powers That Be is gunned down at school, thatâll be the moment to actually do something because itâll hit home. Until then, let the kids of the regular people be gunned down
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u/Accomplished_Emu_658 28d ago
Thoughts and prayers until people arenât talking about it anymore then donât do anything.
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u/rdickeyvii 28d ago
That's the playbook they've been using for decades. It's high time to flip the script: this is EXACTLY the time to talk about it.
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Didnât this asshole sign a law allowing everyone in the state to carry concealed weapons without a permit?
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u/oxphocker 28d ago
The rooms on fire...I know, let's add some more fire that will fix it! (Almost every repub strategy lately...the good ol double down)
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u/TBAnnon777 28d ago
They're literally going that teachers should carry around guns. And some students should carry around guns. Because thats what is needed, gun fights in school to protect children from being shot in school....
Happy 5th birthday timmy, now this is a pistol, now when you see a bad bad man or boy trying to give you danger candy, you have to remember to squeeze and not just pull ok! Oh and no more candy for you little buddy, those are unhealthy for you! Keep this extra ammo in your backpack just in case ok!
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u/CuthbertJTwillie 28d ago
Well I'm not talking about this shooting. I'm talking about the last one. It is the time to talk about that one right?
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u/TyrantsInSpace 28d ago
They don't care about kids getting shot because dead kids don't read books.
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u/PM_THE_REAPER 28d ago
"Thoughts and prayers"
"Now is not the day"
Get f*cked. Actually DO something.
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u/MattTheRadarTechh 28d ago
The only thing republicans will do is to give more guns to kids so they can shoot each other in the name of freedom
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u/Lucy_Jolie 28d ago
Sometimes I feel that's what's being done, they just sit back and watch the world burn.
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u/OriginalLocksmith436 28d ago
I honestly did think people would snap the fuck out of it by now. I can't believe that half of this country still wants this to continue happening.
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u/Due-Giraffe-9826 28d ago
There isn't a want, it's just the obvious way to do it one half wants to avoid doing at all costs (banning owning private fire arms) more than their will to stop children from killing each other. And the less obvious ways they're either to blind to see, or the other half is so against it's not even a tertiary option to slow it down. That one being actually enforcing anti-bullying policies, and teachers being trained to see the signs of an abused, or neglected child. I'm willing to bet that most school shooters are either heavily bullied with few friends, or living in a household where they aren't safe.
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u/opal2120 28d ago
No way to prevent this, says only nation where this regularly happens.
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u/Revolutionary_Tip701 28d ago
Holy fuck it's a broken fucking record
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u/PunishedEnovk 28d ago
I wish they'd just make an album instead of just repeating their one-hit wonder single.
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u/QuantumSasuage 28d ago
As long as an apathetic majority keep voting these clowns in (gerrymandering notwithstanding), you're going to hear the same ol' tune.
Nevertheless, this man has blood on his hands.
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u/Lumpy_Branch_4835 28d ago
Complete agreement. What I don't agree with is the bottom of the op's frame stating there's no evidence of the shooter having a accomplise. Kemp and those who keep voting him and those of his ilk continue to have our children's blood on their hands due to their slovenly servitude to the NRA.
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u/Sometimespostslies 28d ago
They should just be honest and say they care more about gun rights than childrenâs lives. Beating around the bush just makes them look like feckless clowns who have no answers.
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u/OkDirection8015 28d ago
Thoughts and prayers are code name for âwe donât careâ.
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u/KungPowKitten 28d ago
I âthinkâ this guy is a POS. And I âprayâ he is defeated in his next election.
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u/_Oman 28d ago
You have the code wrong. It's code for "my rights to feel good with a bulge on my hip far outweighs the right of someone else's child to stay alive"
Literally. After being pressed for a reason to support no gun control, that's the final response I got from someone. Of course they said that if everyone were to carry, no one would shoot anyone that wasn't a "bad guy"
Sure. It works that way.
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u/OxtailPhoenix 28d ago
I'm so glad I got out of that state. I know it's not everywhere but the town I grew up in was nothing but these type people. There are some states I have no desire to visit again but I refuse to step foot in the state of Georgia ever again.
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u/IlikegreenT84 28d ago
It's like the old southern curse "Bless your heart."
Which translates to "you're so stupid I pity you"
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u/MANWithTheHARMONlCA 28d ago
Gotta love when southerners act like theyâre so much more polite and âproperâ than us Yankees but theyâre just fucking wolves in disguise Â
I hate some of the assholes up here (including myself) but at least weâre honest about being assholesÂ
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u/Jnquester54 28d ago
Thatâs like a good Christian saying: âIâll pray for you.â That is code for FU.
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u/Skavis 28d ago
I hate that I can't use it anymore. I genuinely meant it when I used to say it. Because my thoughts and prayers were with those who had loss.
Now these fucks took that from me. Just like they take everything else.
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u/DougK76 28d ago
They only care about biblically not alive children, once theyâre alive, they have to pull themselves up by their baby booty straps and get working. And none of that woke nursing crap either.
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u/Time_Faithlessness27 28d ago
Yeah, just show those infants where to find the fridge. Mamas tits are for daddy so they can make more babies to kill once they exit the womb.
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u/Aggravating_Total921 28d ago
He cares more about guns than protecting Georgia's children.
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u/Newname83 28d ago
Children can't vote
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u/Aggravating_Total921 28d ago
Are you saying that those who vote for people like Kemp care more about protecting guns than protecting children? Because I am.
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u/Hoopy_Dunkalot 28d ago
Protecting kids doesn't get you reelected. The number one killer of kids does however.
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u/Additional_Jaguar170 28d ago
America is broken.
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u/andywfu86 28d ago
Q: Why donât they âfixâ abortion with thoughts and prayers?
A: They know itâs pointless.
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u/DickySchmidt33 28d ago
Then why are you here, governor? What value does your presence add to any of this?
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u/forgetfulsue 28d ago
Free publicity for re-election! Look at what a god fearing man he is, and heâll let me keep myself well armed against the bad guys that no good guys were able to stop!
/s if actually necessary
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u/Necrolust1777 28d ago
"We know what we can do, but it's an unpopular opinion that will not get me re-elected, so I'm playing the God card"
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u/TonyG_from_NYC 28d ago
I kinda wished someone would have clapped back and said, "That is such a shitty answer," and watch everyone's expression afterward.
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u/hitbythebus 28d ago
Honestly Iâm surprised Kemp didnât just throw his hands up in frustration, with something asinine like âI gave these teachers the right to permitless concealed carry. I gave them the tools, how is it my fault they refuse to defend themselvesâ
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u/RhoOfFeh 28d ago
There were four post birth abortions in Georgia yesterday and the Republicans won't do shit about it.
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u/forgetfulsue 28d ago
I thought we were allowed to abort at 345 months? (Age of oldest teacher who died)
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u/RhoOfFeh 28d ago
There's no limit, just a starting line.
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u/DeathPercept10n 28d ago
If you're preborn, you're fine; if you're preschool, you're fucked. - George Carlin
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u/IndividualLimitBlue 28d ago
Survive the US society deserves a Netflix reality TV show.
If the NRA does not kill you in school maybe the food industry will succeed to poison you to death. Or the healthcare insurance industry.
If you reach 80 alive you win.
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u/forgetfulsue 28d ago
But youâre destitute because social security and Medicare have been gutted and your Walmart greeter paycheck barely kept a roof over your head.
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u/treehumper83 28d ago
That paycheck is so small that it can only keep a roof over your head if all of the greeters at one store shared a single studio apartment.
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u/TheDocHealy 28d ago
You'd probably have a better chance at shelter by just sleeping in the break room for how little they pay them.
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u/unclejohnnydanger 28d ago
Reporter should have followed up, âMy apologies, my question wasnât in reference to todayâs shooting, rather in reference to the Sandy Hook shooting. Has enough time passed Governor?â
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u/I_Lick_Your_Butt 28d ago
The NRA is why this keeps happening. Nothing is going to change as long as they are "donating" millions to politicians every year.
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u/Available-Anxiety280 28d ago
A lot of regular folk believe it too.
I've lost track of the number of people who say "it's not about the guns!" or "Minors shouldn't have access to guns!" (well they obviously do...) and so on and so forth.
But hey, gotta keep those pop pop murder toys.
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u/ImperatorDanorum 28d ago
"it's not the guns, it's the people" and yet they refuse to do proper background checks before a gun purchase...
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Or improve mental health awareness.
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u/I_Lick_Your_Butt 28d ago
I remember when they tried to use the mental health defense but never had an answer to how to fix that, or just made excuses as to why the US doesn't fund mental health services.
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u/TSllama 28d ago
I would LOVE if the government improved access to mental health care (really, health care in general)!
Thing is, in the US, there's one party who wants to make access to guns harder, and also wants to make health care more accessible.
The other party wants guns to be even more available and does absolutely nothing regarding health care.
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u/BigBoyWeaver 28d ago
If it's the guns then why doesn't <insert country with way fewer guns and thorough background checks> have the same number of gun deaths?!!?!?!?
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u/bowens44 28d ago
fuck your thoughts and prayers, they do nothing. We need legislation. We need strict control.
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u/ScorpioZA 28d ago
When is it the time?? It is always "thoughts and prayers" but nothing more than that. And when people do try, it's "dredging up the past to ......"
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u/samanime 28d ago
Fuck. This. Guy.
Seriously, what an absolute asshole, after he just signed a law giving every nutjob permission to conceal carry without a license.
This is exactly when we should talk about how we STOP KIDS GETTING SHOT AT SCHOOL!
Fuck your "thoughts and prayers".
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u/BanditsMyIdol 28d ago
I wonder if gunman was undocumented would they wait even a second before talking about the border?
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u/snarksneeze 28d ago
Yes, let's pray for our law enforcement. We already learned that lesson in Uvalde, where obviously we didn't have enough thoughts and prayers to get the cops inside where the killer was.
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u/Darkthumbs 28d ago
That the one where parents went in before the cops did?
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u/snarksneeze 28d ago
Yes, because there wasn't enough thoughts and prayers. In fact, the thoughts and prayers was so low that the cops were forced to stop parents from going inside to protect their own kids. It was a bad day to be a cop.
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u/legendary_millbilly 28d ago
That's just a standard republican reply.
It's never time to discuss policy changes because there are no policy changes they will ever accept.
Their precious guns are far more important than your kids are, and it's very evident.
They aren't ever going to "do something" because that means they can't open carry at Wal mart or McDonald's.
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u/KeepGuesting 28d ago
We need a reporter to follow up daily asking if today is the day to talk about safety or policy.
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u/SaltyDerpy 28d ago
This is never the day to talk about it.
If you ask about any school shooting or gun related tragedy, no matter how long it has been, they will say the same thing.
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u/onthethreshold 28d ago
Hey, thoughts and prayers have worked out GREAT! Every single time after every single one of the massive amounts of school shootings we've had, they immediately stopped! Thanks God!
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u/RCapri1 28d ago
Love how they just passed concealed carry without a permit too. Iâve been hunting since I was a kid. Have 6 weapons in a safe at home, ones I bought and ones passed down to me from my dad. I live in New York with one of the strictest gun laws. My dad always said â a gun is a tool with a specific purpose, and the purpose is to kill something.. you donât take it out of the safe unless you plan to kill somethingâ. I donât keep a drill on me all day expecting to meet a screw which is the same reason I donât need to keep a gun on me all day because Iâm not planning on using it.
Like come on man how does a 14 year old get free access to a gun ? I wasnât even allowed to touch them alone until I went and got my permit as an adult. How much damage could a 14 year old do with a knife or just his fist ?
Disclaimer: I understand that in certain places having a gun is a part of life and may be needed everyday. ie. Alaska .. honestly only place I can think of that makes sense.
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u/Nearby_Airline_3353 28d ago
The immediate response to anyone spouting this tired line should be "Then when is that day, Governor? Name the day, and I will ask you again what the fuck you are going to do to prevent this from happening again and again and again."
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u/aagloworks 28d ago
How many more are needed? Don't the authorities understand that this is not normal?
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u/forgetfulsue 28d ago
They just bury their heads and guns in the sand and hope someone else does something because they donât want to lose that sweet, sweet NRA money.
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u/Block444Universe 28d ago
Wow. If this is not the day then WHEN THE FUCK is??
Because thoughts and prayers have helped so damn much up until now?
This guy has the absolute audacity to say this on the day of?
I canât even
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u/VirgoVigor 28d ago
Itâs NEVER the day, is it? Itâs the same fucking cycle.
Shooting > Thoughts and prayers > Wait for the news to stop talking about it > Do nothing > Repeat
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u/C4dfael 28d ago
ââNo Way To Prevent This,â Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happensâ
(10th Anniversary Edition)
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u/DarthPimento 28d ago
"This is not the day to talk about safety or policy."
When IS the day, Governor?
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u/ChaseThoseDreams 28d ago
My wife is a teacher and we discuss her leaving the school system several times a year because of this. Sheâs a great teacher and her kids love her, itâs insane that America would rather teach her and the students combat field techniques learned from Desert Storm rather than prevent the violence itself.
Anytime I dare voice frustration about the lack of gun regulation, Conservative types blow up my social media to try to parse the details with âan AR-15 isnât an assault weapon,â âwhat about knifings,â and âbad guys will still find a way to get their guns.â As if any of that addresses the kids and staff who got slaughtered or maimed. Nothing except the names of the victims and total death count changes.
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u/HabitOptimal1412 28d ago edited 28d ago
As much as I support the 2A, the absolute inaction of these people astounds me.
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u/Vinegarinmyeye 28d ago edited 28d ago
As much as I support the 2A,
Genuine question (from an outsider) - why?
I commonly see statements about fighting against a (hypothetical) tyrannical government - often from the same folks who will talk about how the US military is the greatest in the world (debatable, though I don't think anyone would argue they're not the best equipped).
So, this "well regulated militia" armed with handguns and AR15s is fighting off the best equipped mlitary on the planet? I can't see an AR15 doing much good against an M1 Abrams tank, or a drone strike...
I suppose, yeah there's the whole valiant last stand bit... Can go down fighting, very noble... I get the sentiment...
But the trade off for that noble sentiment appears to be an insane amount of innocent people being shot on a regular basis (padrtivulsrly heartbreaking when it's school kids).
I'm not saying this to be antagonistic or argumentative, I promise it's a genuine question - it just seems insane to most of the rest of us in the world that the cost of this "fantasy" of fighting off hypothetical tyranny really doesn't seem wortb it.
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u/__Aitch__Jay__ 28d ago
There's that great Onion headline, something like "How can we stop this happening? Asks the only place where this keeps happening"
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u/True_Crab8030 28d ago
Oh man I can't wait for a reply on this one. I mean, the rhetoric surrounding A2 echos amongst conservatives like it's common sense but I've never seen someone honestly, and reasonably defend the U.S. policies surrounding gun ownership in a space other than that of unopposing agreement.
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u/ParticularAd8919 28d ago edited 28d ago
I'm an American citizen who has spent a fair number of years living outside the US (sometimes in developed countries sometimes in the Global South). I think part of the issue alongside the gun-nut ideology you mention, is that Americans as a whole are incredibly inward looking and when push comes to shove they can't imagine things changing beyond what is right in front of them and they have no desire to experience anything different from what they already know. This isn't a unique problem to America by any means but US culture spends a lot of time harping on how "We're the greatest country in the world!" "We're number one!" etc. and while I don't think many people believe that like they used to, it still creates a mentality of not wanting to look outside to other places for potential examples or models or how things could be different. IE What we have now is the best it could be or at the very least what we have now is "good enough" so things can't get better. We're the greatest so any model or approach to an issue apart from ours will be worse by default. This is true with healthcare, public infrastructure, education, and yes guns too.
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u/JustIgnoreMeBroOk 28d ago
The only appropriate response from the reporter should have been:
âWhat the fuck? Are you joking?â
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u/unspok3n1 28d ago
THEY DONT CARE! The litmus test was Sandy Hook massacre of little babies (kids). They did nothing then they will do nothing now.
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u/rothcoltd 28d ago
I thought you donât care and I prayed that you would actually do something constructive. Is that good enough?
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u/Pinheaded_nightmare 28d ago
wtf are thoughts and prayers gonna do? Itâs a nice gesture, but these families will not be the same again. His thoughts and prayers can eat a bag of dicks. How about since your state has shitty gun regulation, your taxes help pay for the victims funeral arrangements? Thatâs a good start⌠and yes, this is the perfect time to talk about safety and policy. All you southern states need to get your shit together, Iâm also looking at the Midwest too⌠get your shit together!
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u/Novel_Huckleberry435 28d ago
See they donât really give a fuck about the kids. This party is a literal joke right now.
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u/trip6s6i6x 28d ago
This. This is why I'm atheist.
So sick of thoughts and prayers. Fuck anyone who uses that as a goto instead of helping work on solutions to shit like this.
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u/Fight_those_bastards 28d ago
The follow-up question should be,
well, when is the day to talk about safety and policy, you absolute fucking shitweasel?
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u/old_bearded_beats 28d ago
Hey, those thoughts and prayers have been great in the past. It really works - there's literally been an average of 10 days between school shootings in the US this year (not accounting for school vacations)
Source BBC News - FBI alerted last year to Georgia school attack suspect https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c049yw352r1o
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u/GreyBeardEng 28d ago
Nothing will be done about school shooting until some psycho shoots up a private school with 1%er kids in it.
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u/beavis617 28d ago
According to the gun nutter faction of Americans it's never time to talk about the major gun problem we have. When a 14 yr old can access an assault style weapon and go out and murder people then we have a gun problem....thoughts and prayers are useless. đ
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u/Grandmaster_Bae 28d ago
Reporters should keep asking them "do you care about guns more than children?"
They won't answer but that sound byte will live on hopefully next election
But then again... 50% of the voters might share his point of view đ
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u/HairlessHoudini 28d ago
Today is not the day to talk about because it will happen somewhere else in a day or two then y'all will talk about it with them
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u/ThatCoryGuy 28d ago
Iâm convinced Republicans are given an actual, literal script when they register with the party that says all this horseshit.
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u/fungi_at_parties 27d ago
Didnât he sign some law about carrying a concealed gun without a license like, yesterday?
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u/ChickenandWhiskey 28d ago
"not today, lets mourn this and forget I signed a bill that loosened gun restrictions for precious georgians because I need to pander to my base, god bless"
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u/ChibiReaver 28d ago
It's just the same drivel everytime a republican speaks. Never any action, just useless thoughts n prayers
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u/CalabreseAlsatian 28d ago
When you vote Republican, you are voting for everything to stay the same.
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