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u/rabusxc Aug 19 '24
Frivolous lawsuits get lawyers disbarred. Sue away.
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u/Sweet-Palpitation473 Aug 19 '24
Holy shit that is a list
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u/Rare_Brief4555 Aug 19 '24
Ohh you bet. Can send a suit against whoever you like, winning is a whole other story.
And if you think a lawyer wouldn't be petty with their free time... Well think again lol
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u/SobakaZony Aug 19 '24
I am not a Lawyer, so i do not know, but to prove defamation, don't you have to prove
- not only that the alleged defamatory statement is not true,
- but also that the alleged defamer intended the statement to harm the Plaintiff?
If so, how could anyone possibly prove that Donald Trump is not a 34-time convicted felon, when it is a matter of public record?
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u/Adept_Score2332 Aug 19 '24
I do believe that the defamation cases also need to show harm done to the plaintiff
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u/PopperChopper Aug 19 '24
There is also a pretty high bar for public figures since they are topics of discussion amongst the public already.
The bar is not as high for average citizens
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u/Kopitar4president Aug 20 '24
IIRC for average citizens you knew or should have known the statements were false.
For public figures it's actual knowledge or reckless disregard for the truth and that is a high bar.
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u/aint_exactly_plan_a Aug 19 '24
Let it be known that by calling Trump a 34-time convicted felon, I intend to do him harm, and God willing, will be able to prove the harm done after the election.
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u/yoshinoyaandroll Aug 19 '24
For MAGA supporters, being 34 times convicted is a positive thing. They wear merch and scream that they would still vote for the convict. It helped him become even more popular as a criminal.
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u/jrs1980 Aug 19 '24
Right, I hope Mike plans to sue all the magats who own "I'm voting for the convicted felon" t-shirts too.
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u/Rolandscythe Aug 19 '24 edited Aug 20 '24
Yet you notice Mike here isn't threatening to sue any of those MAGA cultists walking around with the 'I'm voting for the convicted felon' shirts and signs, is he? Strange...
I feel that would come back to bite them in the ass if they tried to actually pursue a lawsuit against anyone. Last I checked if you claim a word or phrase is defamatory you're not allowed to put a little asterisk on the end that says 'but only when these people use it'
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u/pudgey933 Aug 20 '24
Which is so twisted that this is what “the party of law and order” has come to. If he were black or brown, they’d be chanting for a 34 time felon to get life or worse.
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u/khismyass Aug 20 '24
Voting for the convict, against the former District Attorney then go back to their car with the obligatory "back the blue" sticker on it.
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u/SuitableStudy3316 Aug 20 '24
If Donald Trumps name were Juan Rodriguez do you think they’d worship him lol? Tells you everything you need to know about Republicans.
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u/KiwiObserver Aug 20 '24
Need to show harm was done by those “non true” statements. But “convicted felon” is a true statement.
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u/Romanfiend Aug 19 '24
Truth is an absolute defense to defamation. That Trump is a convicted felon is a fact.
Is Davis even a lawyer?
Edit: apparently he is, so he knows he is full of it.
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u/TheBirminghamBear Aug 19 '24
And if I'm not mistaking, isn't Trump fundraising / selling merch off of his felon status?
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u/rglogowski Aug 19 '24
So I wonder if his statement constitutes (bad) legal advice?
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u/BrevitysLazyCousin Aug 19 '24
I assumed he deleted this shit. Nope, he's doubled down. He's claiming that until the judge finds him guilty and sentences him (which is weeks away), he isn't a convicted felon.
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u/JimB8353 Aug 20 '24
That’s not correct. The jury found him guilty. The judge doesn’t make any such finding or declaration. Guess Davis was absent from that class in law school.
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u/Sinister_Plots Aug 19 '24
That's definitely the point here. It's a tactic pulled right out of the DJT book on business. Intimidate, ridicule and mock and when they retaliate you sue them. That's the Trump way.
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u/Rare_Brief4555 Aug 19 '24
And he doesn't have to care too much about winning compared to the average plaintiff
It's just to tangle the important people on the team up in red tape
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u/MildlyMixedUpOedipus Aug 19 '24
If so, how could anyone possibly prove that
That's the fun part. They can't.
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u/FknDesmadreALV Aug 19 '24
I wish a mf would help the less fortunate in their free time, not waste it being petty omg.
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u/CMDR_KingErvin Aug 19 '24
Makes you wonder why any self respecting lawyer who busted their ass going through all that school and working their whole lives would just throw it all away for someone who doesn’t even pay his lawyers.
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u/cbg13 Aug 19 '24
If you notice, Trump doesn't have any self respecting non-partisan lawyers anymore. His rhetoric combined with his penchant for not paying legal bills mean the only lawyers he can get are the MAGA sycophants
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u/Rubeus17 Aug 19 '24
correct. or some poor lawyer w no connections who can’t resist some national coverage to try to monetize it somehow? Alina Habba and her husband owe the IRS over $1,000,000 in back taxes. How do people get away with living like that?
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u/Luke90210 Aug 19 '24
And they aren't good lawyers. Alina Habba, the lawyer who lost the fraud case in NY, came from a bottom third law school. The judge reprimanded her for not knowing how to introduce evidence correctly into the case. She is a mediocrity and therefore linked to Trump.
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u/DillBagner Aug 19 '24
They all have a dream where the guy who is well over half a billion dollars in debt he will never pay will choose them to reward with treasures and power.
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u/Leviathan41911 Aug 19 '24
MAGA: Making Attorneys Get Attorneys
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u/Strange_An0maly Aug 19 '24
Trumps Lawyers are all scumbag, corrupt liars
Who knew!
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u/namezam Aug 19 '24
I love this article. It’s like a living document, they just add to it every few weeks.
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u/jessuh22 Aug 19 '24
The fear is showing. What happened to the t-shirts bragging "I'm voting for the convicted felon" Not funny anymore?
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u/Tdluxon Aug 19 '24
Considering how many of his attorneys are now disbarred, convicted, under indictment or bankrupt, any reputable attorneys have known for a long time not to get involved.
Rudy and Jenna Ellis… how are things going?
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u/sksauter Aug 19 '24
Oh if I was an attorney and got approached about this, I would charge an absolutely monumental consultation fee at 1 hour minimum. Soon as they wall in the door, I let them present their argument, cut them off after 5 minutes, strongly recommend they do not pursue this case, and that I will not be representing them if they do, then see them out of my office.
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u/NickFolzie Aug 19 '24
Payment in advance.
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u/Plus-Reading7100 Aug 19 '24
My exact thoughts!
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u/Moulitov Aug 19 '24
That's sound. Trump does have a history of skipping out on bills. Or is that defamatory now too?
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u/badestzazael Aug 19 '24
So he is a thief as well as a convicted felon
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u/Unlucky_Decision4138 Aug 19 '24
Didn't Sidney Powell get disbarred as well?
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u/Muscle-Cars-1970 Aug 19 '24
I'm pretty sure in Powell's case, she was un-Krakened.
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u/ImpossibleLeek7908 Aug 19 '24
Jenna Ellis's hubris before the election made her downfall that much more satisfying.
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u/Pseudobreal Aug 19 '24
“You don’t have an F-word pass. We can say it, you can’t.” -The Right
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u/daisy0723 Aug 19 '24
A customer came in wearing one of those shirts.
I just said, Seriously dude, he raped a little girl. You have daughters.
He hasn't worn it since.
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u/Rubeus17 Aug 19 '24
I know a guy in LE here in floriduh. huge magat. He has one child. a 16 yr old daughter. how could he support a rapist? How can he support the guy who stacked the court and denies his daughter rights over her own body? How’s that for ignorant and brainwashed?
edit: my daughter is marrying into this guys family. 🥺
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u/pudgey933 Aug 20 '24
Ugh I’m so sorry. My mom herself is a rape victim and she says she “doesn’t believe he raped those women, they just want something or they’ve been politicized”. The brainwashing is absolutely devastating. I asked her if she assumes zebra’s when she hears hooves. She didn’t get it - I explained the simplest explanation is usually the right one. So allll of these women and all of these judges and employees at 100’s of media outlets are all conspiring together to frame Trump, OR - he’s just a terrible person?
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u/Rubeus17 Aug 20 '24
the denial is so strong- after you’ve invested your belief in someone. But what Fox has done is absolutely criminal and despicable. Brainwashing people to believe terrible lies. I hate Fox bigly.
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u/iam_Mr_McGibblets Aug 19 '24
But I thought if a spade is a spade, then it's probably a spade... right?
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u/Ok_Championship9415 Aug 19 '24
Damn he's gonna have to sue his own supporters. This could get messy.
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u/catskilkid Aug 19 '24
Truth is an absolute defense.
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u/1singleduck Aug 19 '24
Republicans don't believe in truth though.
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u/Aussie-Ambo I come from the land down under Aug 19 '24
They believe in alternate facts
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u/Flea_Biscuit Aug 19 '24
Aren't those just lies though?
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u/fomaaaaa Aug 19 '24
No no they’re different facts than what others are presenting as facts because these ones aren’t allowed to be fact checked
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u/Lil_Shanties Aug 19 '24
Sounds legit to me, in (alternative)fact Trump slept with Epstein not any of Epstein’s victims so he’s really being called a pedophile when he should be called gay.
Source? me and my facts.
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u/cmd_iii Aug 19 '24
Awwww…. Let ‘em go ahead and sue. It’s been a while since they’ve been laughed out of a courtroom, and I can use the entertainment.
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u/The_Outcast4 Aug 19 '24
The truth has a liberal bias
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u/OrcsSmurai Aug 19 '24
Not because truth loves liberals, and not because liberals are especially zealous about the truth but because conservatives have opted to abandon the truth entirely.
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u/WingedGeek Aug 19 '24
And in California we have CCP § 425.16. So, please sue. I'll defend anyone in this state named as a defendant in a defamation action for referring to Trump as a "convicted felon," for no money out of pocket.
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u/Diarrhea_Beaver Aug 19 '24
You don't even really need for the statements to be true when slandering public figures, especially one currently serving or campaigning for the presidency.
In com law courses they literally use the office of the president as the highest standard example of a public figure class that's awarded so much opportunity to clear their name of falsehoods due to the air time and exposure their platform provides, that it's utterly impossible for them to successfully sue for damages resulting from slander.
Short of maybe a sitting president, there literally isn't a tougher slander case to win than that of a former president and current candidate suing an individual or media company over falsehoods and untrue personal attacks.
The first time he blurted out the "I'm using for slander" threats back in '15 I was laughing at how fucking ridiculous and absurd that whole idea waS. Little did I know that the next 10 plus years were about to set a whole new standard for what I thought was ridiculous and absurd.
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u/SpiderWil Aug 19 '24
Nobody respects America justice system anymore bc of the GOP. They praise and vote for this felon.
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u/Available-Elevator69 Aug 19 '24
Calling him "not a convicted felon is defamatory"
Get your facts right.
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u/cold-corn-dog Aug 19 '24
Also, "Operatives"? I wish. I want my Go-Go-Gadget gear.
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u/UtahItalian Aug 19 '24
guy probably thinks that because sentencing hasn't happened yet he isn't convicted.
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u/Faustus_Fan Aug 19 '24
I guarantee that he knows that he's spouting bullshit. He's just hoping that the threat of a frivolous lawsuit is enough to scare people.
It isn't.
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u/crescent-v2 Aug 19 '24
I have seen MAGA people argue that a person isn't really convicted until they have been sentenced.
I swear, they all need refreshers on civics.
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u/Liberal_Lemonade Aug 19 '24 edited Aug 19 '24
Slightly off topic, but alot of these folks never even took highschool civics class to begin with, through no fault of their own. Remember how it was thrown by the way side because too many young people were getting interested in politics to shake up the patriarchal system? I'm 30 and high school civics classes were long gone by the time I entered 9th grade. The 60s REALLY scared the political machine at the federal, state, and even local levels.
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u/New_user_Sign_up Aug 20 '24
I’m mid 40s and did not ever take a class called civics (although there were more general classes that did touch on the constitution, three branches of the US govt., the separation of powers, etc.)
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u/TemperatureTop246 Aug 19 '24
Sued for speaking the truth... that'll go well.
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u/InfectedByEli Aug 19 '24
Well, you see, let me explain...
There's 'the truth' [smiles and nods head],
and then there's 'the truth' [frowns and shakes head].
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Truth is an absolute defense to slander and defamation. Now, sometimes truth can be subjective. Thankfully in this situation - it's not.
Donald Trump is a convicted felon.
Please sue me for making that statement.
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u/dontdisturbus Aug 19 '24 edited Aug 19 '24
Saying that Trump, convicted felon, is a convicted felon will get you sued.
Saying that Michelle Obama is a man will get you retweeted by Trump.
I love it
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u/Socratesticles Aug 19 '24
Ahem, *retruthed
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u/freebytes Aug 19 '24
Not anymore. Trump is moving back to Twitter. You know he is going to abandon TS because no one is seeing him post there.
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u/s4burf Aug 19 '24
We know, MAGA, 2 + 2 = 5.
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u/robilar Aug 19 '24
More like 2+2 = tomato with these imbeciles.
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u/Flames21891 Aug 19 '24
Actually, it's Potato, not Tomato. You forgot to carry the Stupid.
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u/MastiffOnyx Aug 19 '24
Not gonna lie. That made me snort Pepsi out my nose.
So thanks for that, I guess.
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u/Maelefique Aug 19 '24
Dear Moron:
Take it up with the Justice System of New York.
Fair Warning:
Attempting to deny reality isn't going to win you an election.
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u/Liberal_Lemonade Aug 19 '24
I really do hate to be that person, but that is exactly how he "won" his first election.
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u/Doc_tor_Bob Aug 19 '24
Trump is a convicted felon Trump is a convicted felon Trump is a convicted felon Trump is a convicted felon. Come get me boys.
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u/InfectedSteve Aug 19 '24
Trump is a convicted felon. He is weird. He has small hands. He is orange. He wears a diaper. He makes no sense when talking. He is a liar. His IQ probably isn't above single digit integers. He likes commies and pedos. He never won an election in his life that was voted on by popular public vote. He and the electoral college should both be sued for mass mental anguish and suffering for the years he was president up til now. Stupidity hurts us normal folk.
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u/Millefeuille-coil Aug 19 '24
You forgot light bulbs and bleach
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u/mattjones73 Aug 19 '24
And sharpies.
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u/tackleberry2219 Aug 19 '24
And windmill cancer
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u/_aware Aug 19 '24
He likes commies and pedos
Trump is a pedo
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u/duckpocalypse Aug 19 '24
yep and probably just threatened his victims into dropping their cases
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u/NaiveCryptographer89 Aug 19 '24
How many flights did he take on Epstein’s plane? He also rented the plane that Epstein was arrested in NJ.
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u/dwitman Aug 19 '24
Donald Trump is a convicted Felon. 32 times over.
He's also widely thought to be a pedophile, a rapist, and has several times made statements that lead me to believe he wants to have sex with his own daughter.
Come at me bro.
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u/gwizonedam Aug 20 '24
Oh, some morons will. 100% you could factually say “Donald Trump is a convicted felon” and some idiot will scream “ONLY IN LIBERAL NEW YORK STATE!” Like that isn’t a factual statement…Like, bro if you are a fucking felon you are a FUCKING FELON no matter where you are.
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u/coopersgranny Aug 19 '24
Walks like a felon, talks like a felon, is a convicted felon…oh look it’s a felon
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u/YoulaughIcry69 Aug 19 '24
I see people wearing maga hats daily and I don’t think you could pay me to wear one. The embarrassment that I would feel would just be too much. I pity them tho that they are that brain washed.
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u/giskardwasright Aug 19 '24
My husband is a marine corps veteran, and he stopped wearing his red and gold EGA hat because too many people were mistaking him for maga. We got him a black one instead
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u/Specific_Hat3341 Aug 19 '24
This is an interesting perspective. Let's work through it, starting with the most basic facts. A court convicted him. The charge he was convicted of was a felony. Those convicted of felonies are called felons. On the other hand ...
Nope. That's it. He's a convicted felon.
What is the deal with these idiots?
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u/zippiskootch Aug 19 '24
How about convicted weirdo?
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u/appoplecticskeptic Aug 19 '24
No because he wasn’t convicted of that. He is a weirdo but he was convicted of felonies. Being a weirdo is not amongst the 34 felony convictions he has.
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u/Diligent-Lion6571 Aug 19 '24
Mike is not very smart.
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u/NoSignificance3817 Aug 19 '24
Man be MAGA-stupid. It's that trump derangement syndrome I hear so much about.
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u/zilchxzero Aug 19 '24
Lol, the "facts over feelings" crowd sure seem to have their feefees hurt by facts, huh?
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u/Earthling1a Aug 20 '24
Hey Mike, guess what? Trump is a convicted felon. Can you please tell him I said that? Because that's what he is. A convicted felon. Let me know if I have to spell it out for you.
Republicans HATE America.
Republicans want to DESTROY America.
Vote blue, no matter who. Vote like your life depends on it.
It very likely does.
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u/bowens44 Aug 19 '24
ahh....no , it isn't. He IS a convicted felon.
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u/Doodahhh1 Aug 19 '24
You want to see something wild? Sort the comments here by controversial...
There's a lot of people trying dispute that "he's not convicted until he's sentenced."
Yes, I shit you not, there are a few accounts pushing that stupidity.
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u/big_duo3674 Aug 20 '24
Bah haha, I love how they just make up new rules and laws every time Trump screws up on something. I was afraid 6 months ago but now it's like watching a car accident in slow motion. GET OUT AND VOTE EVERYONE! YOUR VOTE DOES MATTER
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u/NoPutBabyInCorner Aug 19 '24
Trump is a convicted felon. He is soon to be a convicted and sentenced felon.
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u/Patient-Low-7255 Aug 19 '24
Also, a pardon is an admission of guilt. So, even if he gets into office and pardons himself, he will still be a convicted felon.
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u/shnootsberry Aug 19 '24
There is a different reality where republicans live. Its not based on facts or truth. I can only make sense of it by assuming there is some brain disease destroying these peoples logic center.
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1 defamation of a public figure doesn’t happen 2 the truth is the ultimate defense 3. They will pull anything out of their ass as to not hurt donOlds frail ego. Dementia Don is a. Snowflake.
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u/cantadmittoposting Aug 19 '24
Donald Trump, Republican Candidate for President, is a convicted felon.
I await my lawsuit.
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u/teuast Aug 19 '24
Please sue the media over this, right wingers. I beg you, it will be so funny.
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u/Fun_Intention_484 Aug 19 '24
Dear Weirdo - Donald is a rapist and a convicted felon , grifter and frequent flyer to Epstein island
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u/NinjaMurse Aug 19 '24
Please sue me (I’ll happily defend a 1st amendment violation) - not to mention, these are all facts: He’s a convicted felon. He’s an adjudicated rapist. He’s a friend with pedophiles. He’s accused of SA of numerous individuals (including a minor). He brags about SA. He’s an adulterer. Should I go on? When can I expect my lawsuit? (Can it be soon, I want to countersue and retire).
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u/WeeklyJunket5227 Aug 19 '24
These clowns have slandered and defamed multiple people without a care in the world. Now, they're upset at someone speaking a truth about them.
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u/rockdash Aug 19 '24
Mike Davis has a micropenis that he likes to rub up against the dog when he thinks nobody is looking.
Come at me you fascist piece of garbage.
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u/soulless_ginger81 Aug 19 '24
In order to successfully sue someone for defamation you have to prove what they said about you was not true. Donald Trump was absolutely convicted for multiple felonies.
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u/wales-bloke Aug 19 '24
This is just plain wrong.
He's a convicted felon, adjudicated rapist and a former close associate of a prolific pedophile rapist sex trafficker.
He's also fucking weird.
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u/Pistonenvy2 Aug 19 '24
as opposed to calling michelle obama or imane khalif men. thats just social commentary but stating a literal fact is defamation.
cool got it.
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u/7hundrCougrFalcnBird Aug 19 '24
Isn’t his base running around wearing T-shirt’s calling him a convicted felon?
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u/embarrassedtrwy Aug 19 '24
Not sorry, he IS a convicted felon. Guilty by a jury on all 34 counts. Let him sue me, it’ll be fun
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u/InevitableHost597 Aug 19 '24
AND STOP CALLING ME WEIRD! I AM NOT WEIRD! I'M NOT! I'M NOT! I'M NOT! I'M NOT! I'M NOT!
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u/femsci-nerd Aug 19 '24
You can't get sued for saying the truth. You have to show that the defamation is 1) untrue and 2) how the defamation has damaged you. You can't sue for hurt feelings over saying a true statement. Plus, Trump will never sue now because during discovery, his campaign donation misuse will come to light....
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u/WoefulKnight Aug 19 '24
You mean, calling Donald John Trump, former president of these United States, a convicted felon, will somehow result in the convicted felon calling his lawyers (presumably better ones that didn't get him off the felony conviction), to sue me personally because I called him, Donald John Trump, a convicted felon on Reddit?
Gee whiz. That sounds incredibly likely and I will now stand next to my mailbox, waiting for the inevitable lawsuit from convicted felon, Donald John Trump because I called the former 45th president of the United States, Donald Trump, a convicted felon.
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u/MarineBoing Aug 19 '24
Sue me then you piece of trash. Trump, regardless of Presidential candidacy, is in fact: - A Domestic Terrorist - Convicted Felon - has ties to Epstein (can't hide that shit) - Has ties to communists - Has ties to Russia and North Korea - Has to rely on others money (multiple bankruptcy saves by his father) - Neo Nazi - just keep adding to the list
I'll wait for that "lawsuit"...
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u/VoiceTraditional422 Aug 19 '24
Fuck off, Mike. Calling a convicted felon a convicted felon is not defamation. Donny Dementia is a convicted felon.
Trump is a convicted felon.
Trump is a convicted felon.
Trump is a convicted felon.
Trump is a convicted felon.
Trump is a convicted felon.
Trump is a convicted felon.
Sue me mother fucker.
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u/Parsleysage58 Aug 19 '24
This moron is a lawyer, former chief counsel for nominations for the Senate Judiciary Committee, and clerked for Gorsuch! Whatever law school rubber-stamped his degree should be embarrassed enough to revoke it. He should be disbarred for this xhit alone.
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u/4darunner Aug 19 '24
What’s the convicted felon gonna do? Sue me for calling him a convicted felon? Such weird behavior coming from a convicted felon.
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u/Florida1974 Aug 19 '24
Look at the names he’s called people. Some of those aren’t true at all and could be considered slander and/or libel.
Oh damn , I forgot. Laws only apply to ppl against Trump, never Trump bc he will twist it into some kind of “official capacity” even tho we are yet to get a definition of official capacity and the fact he’s not even president.
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u/Constructman2602 Aug 19 '24
You can’t sue someone for defamation if what they’re saying is true. Even first year law students know that
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u/Hillbilly-joe Aug 19 '24
Calling a dog a dog isn’t a crime the crime is you ass hats following a con man swindler you all are morally bankrupt and have no ground to stand on
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u/RhythmTimeDivision Aug 19 '24
Let's play the discovery game. I'll go first:
Donald J Trump is a convicted felon.
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Trump is a felon, excuse while I re-read that...... So if we say Trump is a felon, which,.... He IS a felon.... He is also a sexual assaulted and a felon 34 times over. So what about the twice impeached moron are we not supposed to mention?
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u/WomenAreNotReal Aug 19 '24
It's not defamatory, it's undeniably a factual statement. He can try and fail to sue everyone in the world, it won't change that fact about him
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Come get me.
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u/BusStopKnifeFight Aug 19 '24
Trump is a public figure and a convicted felon.
Do something about it, if you dare.
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