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In a way that’s a disadvantage. What helps people like Boris Johnson and Donald Trump is they have this plausible deniability about them and difficult to classify mirage-like motivation due to their bumbling around and lack of coherence. It’s disarming to a lot of people, which is dangerous when they’re pushing harmful policies that are often not their ideas alone.
With people like Vance it’s more overt and predictable. He can be classified and shelved.
That’s true. You can tell Vance knows he’s lying, whereas Trump, often you can’t. Trump also has a weird charisma (that I don’t understand - he’s always been odious) that Vance doesn’t seem to have.
Man, the “charisma” thing is just insane to me. I don’t see it at all. And this has nothing to do with how I feel about trump. I just don’t get how you could ever be charmed by someone like that.
Boris Johnson is many things but not incoherent. He's well-spoken and very well-read. Which is what you'd expect since his non-political career was a journalist and columnist. Johnson's French is better than Trump's English.
Boris messes up his hair, does silly things, makes self-deprecating remarks and acts a bit buffoonish but that was all an act, a strategy to soften up the fact that he's an Eton-and-Oxford-educated Tory who's spent his whole life in elite circles.
What's weird is there have been 1,000 polished JD Vances in politics in the last 50 years but the babbling, incoherent weirdo Trump is the one that stuck like no other.
There is also something intangible that blue collar men seem to like about Trump himself over other big liars. I suspect they think the way he talks sounds more honest.
The difference is that Vance lies to lead to a point. He has things he wants to see done. It rhymes with basically reinstalling the monarchy. Except it's a CEO, so technically, it's different.
Trump just lies. He's bored. He can't be bothered to care. It's lunch, and he just wants to hurry this conversation along. Fuck it.
Obamacare was doing great until Republicans deleted its provisions to protect small businesses to make it less popular, then accused the Dems of not protecting small businesses.
There is no ideology, no ethics, no moral compass in the Republican Party. They’re only seeking power for power’s own sake.
McConnell is the one who stole the SCOTUS pick from Obama. If he hadn’t delayed until the new admin, we’d be in a lot better shape right now. I can’t believe Dems just let that delay tactic slide.
He also stole hundreds of lower court seats from the Democrats too, he just sat on them instead of processing the nominations. One nominee waited for years and eventually died.
And then as soon as Hillary lost the election by getting 3 million more votes than donold chump, mcturtle rammed a bunch of fedsuck judges through as fast as he could to fill those vacancies. Appointing them for life.
Conservatives know their policies are unpopular, so they have latched on to the branch of the government that is least democratic in order to force their laws down our throats.
The republicans are vowing to not let a Harris pick through. This is their announced intention before the election even happens, and before a spot is open.
Obama didn't do enough to stand up to Mitch then. He should have bulldozed through an appointee. And a lot of the blame goes to Ruth Bader Ginsburg who stubbornly refused to step down during a favorable administration. It was more important to her to stay employed in a job she could barely show up for than to step down with dignity and preserve her entire careers' work. Her selfishness in holding on to that position is what put the nail in the coffin for roe vs Wade. I was completely dumbfounded by all of it.
This is why I don't like the implication that we just "hate Trump because he's mean/politically incorrect/whatever." Yeah, I think he's a moron wannabe dictator, but it isn't just him I'm worried about. The entire Republican party is complicit; I don't want Trump to lose so they can be sane again, I'm hoping if he loses they'll finally implode.
if half as many people that say they "hate' him bothered t show up and cast a ballot against his party...the mother fucker would have zero power.
National Youth Turnout: 23% - That's lower than in the historic 2018 cycle (28%) which broke records for turnout, but much higher than in 2014, when only 13% of youth voted.
most people that say they "hate the GOp," refuse to show up, or vote against them.
I wish I could find the clip of John Stewart (iirc) saying while we spent the late 90s early 00s yucking it up over the Republicans being virulently anti-uh.. everything decent or necessary to the dignified continuance of the human race? They were sitting around at Friendly's planning out how to take over the local school board.
NGL, the spite-fueled desire to live long enough to spit on Mitch's grave has gotten me through some really bleak moments.
Or, I mean, on second throught I own a bottle capper. I could buy some super patriotic looking beer brand, empty the bottle, fill it with vinegar or bleach (note that "OR" is extremely important), recap it, and sidle up like I was pouring one out for him....
Or start a rumor with the right wingers that in order to stick it to the libs who want to deface Mitch's grave, they need to scour it — preferably with a pressure washer — with wire brushes and vinegar and the strongest cleaners they can find.
It can. It’s called a hypertumor, and it typically happens in larger animals that can survive larger tumors. Cancer cells are mutants that subvert the body’s (America’s) normal functions, so given enough mutation within the original tumor (Republicans) you’ll get a new strain (MAGA) that devours it.
Personally, i think his biggest legacy was when while running against Obama for presidency, when someone said "I don't trust Obama, he's an Arab" he interrupted her and said "no ma'am, He’s a decent family man and citizen that just I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues, and that’s what the campaign’s all about."
That moment right there forever cemented him in my mind as a good person himself.
That was a defining moment for the country. Sadly what it marked was the beginning of the end of republicans being a rational party. Mccain could not stop the delusional whackos from taking over his party and died giving them the middle finger.
I despised McCain when he was the choice against Obama but I'm gonna be honest if I had a room full of pndits like him versus a single average modern republican senator or rep, I'd choose the room full of McCains.
You know you’re a New Yorker when you see the numbers 1, 2, and 3 in red circles and, for a split second, you assume it’s some kind of subway reference.
I will always be grateful for McCain casting this vote though
Could you please explain the picture to the non-Americans here? Is that when he voted against his own party? Was that vote public? And what's with the numbers?
The fact the we're continuing to argue about nationalized insurance instead of Universal healthcare is a symptom of how off our entire system is broken.
My "obamacare" has raised in price every year, and my insurance gets a higher dividend.
We argue about what piece of shit company get to fuck us....and, we're happy it's the D sanctioned ones.
We're watching a moron like JD Vance spit lies, and then spend our time fact checking idiocy.
Show the fuck up to vote. It's absurd so many people are screaming that for FUCKING DECADES
Poll after poll shows that the country is, in fact, there. At least when the question is worded neutrally. And there's no good reason for an individual state take on those startup burdens when there's such demand and discussion re: a national solution.
They are pure fascists. It's party over literally everything and that fact that so many Americans can't see that glaringly obvious fact is staggering. Even more so when so many of those Americans think they're heros for buying into fascism fully.
Obamacare was okay at best cause Obama made so many concessions to the psycho party initially and they’ve tried watering it down and nullifying it ever since.
Should had been called RomneysPartyDoesntReallyCare
Romney’s state healthcare legislation was the inspiration for Medicare. Both candidates wanted it, but after Obama won the Reps didn’t want Dems getting credit for it.
Please also say that in the dumbest voice you can fathom and you’ll have a much better day. I walk around my house and yell, “They’re eating the dawgs!”
Or if my wife asks if I have dinner plans…
“I have the concept of a plan…”
Clearly it’s illegal to work on your plans outside of the White House, he only has 4 years to work on it. He just needs 8 more to finish it and then he’ll leave, promise!
They’ve never made sense. What bothers me is that the MAGAs will believe all this because they take what they hear from Trump or Vance as the word of God and start spreading it. Can’t they think for themselves or do actual research? Their brains accept insane conspiracy theories without ever thinking about its validity. Don’t they worry about being made a fool?
Completely ignoring the fact that immigrants have nothing to do with it. What's driving up housing costs is allowing foreign investors to consistently buy up properties to rent them out, causing market prices to continue to go up because they can outbid a family 100,000 dollars over market value causing neighboring market value to go up in the process. As Walz said their being treated like a commodity.
But they want to keep you hating the brown people cause its an easier scapegoat than trying to solve the real problem, its all they have.
You say "foreign investors" and im sure some of that is true but by in large it is private equity/hedge funds and corps like blackrock buying it all up. Its not some boogeyman. Most of these tools are right here in the states already.
They also apparently all use some algorithm that gives them the highest price they can charge and they constantly raise prices to match it. I don't ever remember seeing rents raised as often as they are now. I rented and knew plenty of people who rented the same place for years without seeing price hikes in the 2000s.
I don’t disagree and also think that’s is the major factor. The comment I responded to said they are still trying to figure out what illegal immigrants have to due with it. So that’s why I responded with that
The main thing the individual mandate does is keep prices low across the board. It's what brings insurance closer to being a universal healthcare where taxes pay healthcare directly, i.e. the individual mandate is enforced with tax evasion and not merely a tax-as-alternative.
I actually screamed at the TV a moment later "We have legal protections for preexisting conditions because of the ACA!!" Fucking lies all over the board.
I feel bad for Walz, he definitely was given bad advice, he was too restrained, he should’ve been aggressive from the get go, like when he went on TV before becoming VP rightfully calling guys like Vance weirdos and women haters.
He didn’t hammer on the individual mandate enough and how republicans sabotaged funding of the program in court and how it represents the bigger pattern of obstructionist republicans hiding behind the term “Do nothing democrats”
Honestly, Walz started off a little rough. 30 minutes in and Vance was just a joke, though. The moment the moderator brought up Abortion he just reverted back to the evil fucking goblin he is.
"Trump fixed Obamacare" has got the be the newest, hottest, form of revisionist history I can imagine.
How often did they hold votes trying to repeal it in its entirety? "Repealing Obamacare" was one of the hugest issues for the 2016 election, right up there with "build the wall." Trump said he was going to eliminate Obamacare on day one via executive order. They've done nothing but attack it and try to dismantle it since it was enacted.
And now they're going with "Trump fixed Obamacare?" Really??
They just straight up lie and the cultists lap up every word of it. They fully believe it; to them it's objective truth because one of their mouthpieces said it.
Reality ceased to matter to these weird angry people long ago.
Trump didn't run on "improve Obamacare". He ran on "Repeal and Replace Obamacare".
However he failed so badly that he wasn't even able to do a half-assed job at it.
The best he tried was half-assing it by repealing it without a replacement, and he didn't even managed that.
His platform is so bad that only whenever he fails to follow through is considered a win.
Is the next Trump brag going to be "He stopped his own Kristallnatch"?
My family 100% believes this and if I disagreed they would come up with a dozen reasons why I'm wrong. And the reasons would all be well articulated. But still delusional. Really weird situation.
JD Vance looks like the grown version of the annoying wannabe punk kid from the early 00s who thinks he knows everything and Walz is the teacher who can’t believe how dumb this know-it-all kid sounds 😂
Reminds me when Trump renamed NAFTA to USMCA but it's just another NAFTA 2.0. Same with cable company renaming their cable service from Comcast to Xfinity and Time Warner to Spectrum. Same shit and service
I’m chronically ill and disabled, but still working full time. I am currently 34. I have Multiple Sclerosis (MS) and another major health condition that requires corrective surgery in the next 2-3 years. I’m undergoing a few procedures for that condition tomorrow.
The fact that things like Medicaid could eventually go completely out the window scares me and my husband so fucking much. I keep saying that my reach goal is continuing working until I’m 45 and then figure out if disability is feasible for me or if it even fucking exists at that point.
The worst part about all of it is exactly what Tim Walz mentioned—anyone can be stricken down by disabling and even terminal disease at any point. Cancer can happen to anyone. So can ALS. Even random car accidents can put people on the brink of death…so many things can go wrong. We need to make sure the people in this country are taken care of no matter what. I’m sick and tired of how the government treats the sick and tired. Rant over.
This guy is truly bought out. Maga is trying to destroy America and take it for their own. Whats the most powerful thing you can do? Take over USA. Then you just spread thru the rest of the world.
Exactly why I wouldn’t watch the debate. Once they mentioned they won’t fact check I said nope I’m not going to watch someone lie the entire time. If they fact checked then the whole night would’ve gone very bad for Vance.
Showing his absolute ignorance and allegiance to a man who wishes he would just disappear. Who openly said " what does it matter? It's all about me anyway."
Vance’s entire strategy was to fill every answer with as many lies as possible. It caused Walz to look confused and struggling as he tried to rebut as many of them as quickly as possible.
Vance calmly set a bunch of little fires while Walz frantically ran around trying to put them out.
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