r/OnePiece • u/Practical_Currency90 • Sep 07 '24
Discussion Does armament haki have a color based on the user?
I've noticed Luffys armament haki is red and sometimes yellow but I've seen other haki users using armament haki and its purple,blue, green and other colors. Idk it may just be effects
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u/DazzlingVeronicaa Sep 07 '24
I think Oda said that hakis are not even visible. They just add it so that we know they're using haki
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u/RexDust Sep 07 '24
That's kinda fun
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u/Vurtikul Sep 07 '24
It also means this abomination is canon
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u/BlackMilk2118 Sep 07 '24
No wonder why doffy laughed at him when he transformed
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u/MarinLlwyd Sep 07 '24
I wonder if mastering Observation can make it visible.
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u/Skelegro7 Sep 07 '24
I bet you can sense or feel it
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Sep 07 '24
You can since Law commented on Luffy using a lot of Haki in gear 4
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u/Digital_Dinosaurio Sep 07 '24
He just felt the haki usage of Luffy dramatically going up.
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u/Nilzed7 Sep 08 '24
So he sensed or felt it? Like that person in the comment said?
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u/Digital_Dinosaurio Sep 08 '24
Yeah, they don't "see" it like we do so the patterns and colors are just Oda having fun. Karasu also sensed both Fuji and Green Bull showing up at the Holy Land because their Haki was "inmense".
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u/blackhole_puncher Sep 08 '24
Maybe the old dude with the flower tattoos in wano commented on the swirls
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u/jamaaldagreatest24 Sep 07 '24
I've seen this original picture with the same caption you just copied so many times it's not even funny
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u/BlackMilk2118 Sep 09 '24
I never said you to laugh at my comment nor I have seen the picture you are referring to
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u/WeCanDanseIfWeWantTo Sep 07 '24
Call me crazy, I like it better
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u/Limon-Pepino Sep 07 '24
I don't dislike it. You just have to have the perspective Luffy is imitating a buccaneers body,like Kuma. Plenty of people have weirder bodies in One Piece.
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u/I-Just-Want-To-Die1 Sep 07 '24
Fair. I personally don't think it looks better but it still looks pretty good.
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Sep 07 '24
Almost. It wouldn't be oily. It's as abominable as "gomu gomu balloon" and others. I don't know what the point is. I hate what Dragon Ball has become in Super, about hair colors and auras.
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u/tayroarsmash Sep 07 '24
It’s not oily, the skin is just tight. You ever see a real bad swell? It looks like that.
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Sep 07 '24
I was referring to the color image "without the black haki", and the shiny aspect that makes it bizarre.
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u/tayroarsmash Sep 07 '24
Skin gets shiny when it’s tight. Thats what I’m saying. A really swollen body part is shiny.
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Sep 07 '24
It never was in the series. What shines is the black/metallic representation of Haki. Without this, it would never be colorful and shining.
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u/YourLocal_FBI_Agent Chopper the Cotton Candy Lover Sep 07 '24
It is in gear 2 when he heats up. We clearly see clouds around him in gear 4, meaning he might just be getting all hot & sweaty
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Sep 07 '24
Gear 2 is not about stretching. It is literally evaporating, hot, that is, humid. This is described in words by the characters even in the manga which is black and white. That's not the case with gear 3 and 4. You know.
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u/Vurtikul Sep 07 '24
I agree about the shiny-ness but hard disagree about the balloon comparison. Balloon isn't bad. Colorless g4 is rough.
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Sep 07 '24
I consider them equal. They are all exaggerated and fun. Calling it an "abomination" is an exaggeration.
If G4 looks "abominable" then everything Luffy does with his powers, in some way, is too.
In my opinion, the G4's appearance is intimidating. Like Hulk. He's as badass as the practical result: He beat Doflamingo, Katakuri avoided the future where he would face him, and would have beaten Kaido badly on 2 occasions (In the first, he wasn't good enough with Haki, in the second they interfered in the fight)
ps: I didn't say he would beat Kaido on Gear 4, just that he would deal damage.
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u/Vurtikul Sep 07 '24
I'm not exaggerating. It's just my opinion. I think it looks terrible with no haki.
If G4 looks "abominable" then everything Luffy does with his powers, in some way, is too.
Definitely disagree with this premise. Haki-less snakeman doesn't look nearly as bad. Balloon doesn't look anywhere near as unnerving as g4. Nothing else he does is really that weird. It's just stretching and inflating. Me thinking haki-less g4 is hilariously bad looking doesn't say anything at all about any of his other forms.
I can see the hulk comparison, and if they never had a haki coating from the beginning I'm sure I wouldn't even really have a problem with it, but the fact that there is a haki version makes this one look that much worse to me. But since there is, yes, I think it looks very bad.
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Sep 07 '24
Snakeman he just got taller. In fact, I wanted this to be the post timeskip look. Now the Tankman without colored haki? His power is about being able to take on these exaggerated and fun forms. Painting them or not doesn't make them bizarre. They already kind of are.
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u/alex494 Sep 07 '24
It was like that in Z too ever since the Frieza arc, it's just hair changing colour and adding bigger numbers to their numbers. All Super did was add red and blue to it.
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u/Lawliette007 Sep 07 '24
I don't think it would look like that. I have always thought that gear 4's marks had more to do with his df than haki. I think it would look more or less the same to another in-universe person.
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u/Asian_Persuasion_1 Sep 07 '24
that only looks horrible because whoever made this edit didn't remove the shiny glossy effect
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u/-Cinnay- The Revolutionary Army Sep 07 '24
Do we know that hardening is invisible too? I think that everyone can see that tbh, didn't we see the people react to it? It's just the base application of armament haki that's invisible.
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u/Acceptable-Soup5156 Sep 08 '24
I love bounce man 🤷♀️ his little hops on his tiny legs bring me so much joy
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u/Miscellaneous_Mind Sep 08 '24
I like the “canon” version. Idk why the eyes are different though, should be the same. Is he supposed to have haki eyeliner?
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u/Vurtikul Sep 08 '24
I didn't make the picture, so idk, but I'd assume it's haki, though. His eyes aren't normally that dark around them.
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Sep 07 '24
Just like in demon slayer. All the flashy fire/water/mist etc… styles are just for show. They really just swinging swords against demons
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u/-Tommy Sep 07 '24
Yeah I think we all agree to ignore her comment about that. A lot of shit just doesn’t make sense if the effects aren’t real.
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u/Inorris0 Sep 08 '24
I might be wrong about this but I feel like I heard that it was a mistranslation and what she meant was that it isn’t actually water or lightning it’s just the appearance of the affect
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u/The2lackSUN Sep 07 '24
wait so why can swords become black as well? Is it also just visible to the audience?
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u/Imconfusedithink Sep 07 '24
When zoro is just making his swords black with haki it's invisible. But actual black blades like shisui and yoru are different. We don't know how they fully work yet, but it's not only because of haki.
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u/The2lackSUN Sep 07 '24
Yeah I was talking about the permanent color like shusui because I remembered they note it as a black knife, I always thought that it's Haki color settling in but now it makes less sense
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u/Lawliette007 Sep 07 '24
Which is weird. Because if shusui is a black-blade turned black by ryuma, it should've been a supreme grade sword.
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u/Destring Sep 08 '24
Turning a sword black levels it one grade, as Kozaburo mentioned Enma could be turned into a black blade and become a supreme grade. It would mean Shusui was not a great grade but a skillful grade
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Sep 07 '24
Is that true? I remember after Zoro defeated Pica he was hanging off a ledge checking out his black sword and being proud of himself
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u/MaimedJester Sep 07 '24
Shishui, is a Kabuto. According to Mihawk when asked he says any blade can be made a black blade. Ryuma made his sword a black blade somehow, same with Yoru that Mihawk uses.
Given the Wado's incredibly white color scheme at some point Zoro on his final power up will turn that blade into a Kabuto.
We have no idea the process required to make a sword permanently a black blade, it's something Roger/Whitebeard/Shanks could never do with their blades.
Ryuma's zombie gave it to Zoro and it gonna it's way home to Zoro but Shishui was never Zoro's black blade. He was borrowing it temporarily. It'll be up to him to somehow unlock what Mihawk told him about, his final challenge to make a Kabuto of his own.
The second Mihawk sees that Zoro on a wanted poster has made Kuina's blade a black blade he'll be like my pupil is ready to deserve a full duel, no holding back any longer
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u/KaiserSenpaiAckerman Sep 08 '24
Reminds me of Demon Slayer, are those elemental visuals aren't actually happening.
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u/Hayn0002 Sep 07 '24
Do you have the source on that?
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u/GoldXP Cipher Pol Sep 07 '24
Official translation, Chapter 597. Rayleigh describes Armament Haki as an invisible suit of armor that can be used as a weapon.
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u/Hayn0002 Sep 07 '24
Which just happens to take place before any visable haki was drawn.
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u/GoldXP Cipher Pol Sep 08 '24 edited Sep 08 '24
Haki isn't visible at all period. No character whatsoever at any point in the series have ever mentioned Haki looking like anything. In fact it wasn't even colored black until after the time skip. Which I'm pretty sure Oda started coloring black so he didn't have to constantly say when it was being used.
Think of it like the Breathing styles from Demon Slayer. They're pretty much just there for visual effects. You can potentially say the same thing about the Black Lightning from Supreme King Haki.
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u/Hayn0002 Sep 08 '24
Then why are you saying Oda said that it's invisible? The only direct reference we have to it in the manga is Rayleigh saying it, well before it actually started to be coloured.
I'm not saying either way whether it's visible or not. It's just that people Oda himself stated it's invisible and then refuse to post a quote on that.
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u/GoldXP Cipher Pol Sep 08 '24
I get what you're saying. To answer your question, I don't know if there is any interview style quote existing. I doubt it.
But everything in the manga is the source material directly from Oda himself. The maga is always going to be the 100% true indisputable canon. So in a way it's like Oda saying it.
The put this simply. There is no direct quote from Oda, but Haki is canonically invisible to everyone in the One Pieces universe.
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u/Hayn0002 Sep 08 '24
It’s just a coincidence nobody else in the verse has stated it’s invisible since it became drawn.
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u/GoldXP Cipher Pol Sep 08 '24
Well Oda had to explain it because it was the first time we where introduced to Haki. Luffy and us the reader didn't know what it was or how it worked. It be redundant and weird if people keeping shouting how they're using an invisible attack. It be like them saying they're using hot fire or cold ice. It's pointless.
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u/1_got_a_dig_bick Sep 07 '24
Correction Oda said that non Haki users can't see others using Haki but Haki itself Is visible but only in black so no coloured haki
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u/cataclytsm Sep 08 '24
I can also confidently say things that Oda didn't say and say that Oda said them: "The sky isn't really blue, only haki users can see that": see the SBS where he definitely didn't say that
800 fucking karma for made up shit that is CONSTANTLY passed around as canon
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u/Content-Hope7147 Pirate Sep 07 '24
Actually, basic armament is invisible, but Hardening is visible. Luffy uses armament without hardening against Caesar Clown and Trebol. Though I guess this isn't a 100% thing, but I just assumed that because of how Rayleigh explains it.
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u/Mazear Sep 07 '24
Yeah... so the coloring I'm pretty sure is just flashy animation. Which is fun to watch in my opinion but if you're looking for story accurate, not so much. Aside from black blades being infused with haki, which I believe are explicitly mentioned in the manga.
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u/Ok_Biscotti_514 Sep 07 '24
It’s just the anime messing around , later on Luffy gets a super saiyan aura and everyone started complaining how dam bright it was
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u/faketoby45 Thriller Bark Victim's Association Sep 07 '24
Armament color is based on whát the animators feels like to be
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u/Metal_Face_Luffy Sep 07 '24
I hate the way they represent haki in the anime it’s so extra for no reason, I really enjoy the simplicity of the manga haki
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u/Mr_Gabbo87 Sep 08 '24
oh yeah, really like to not even understand what haki is everyone using cause oda just does black lightnings for everything nowadays
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u/JadenD12 Sep 07 '24
In universe Haki is not even supposed to be visible, the manga doesn't have different colored haki, and this is really just something the animators do as they please.
(also part of the reason why having a black blade is so prestigious. It's had so much haki infused into it that it has permanently changed color despite the fact haki is usually invisible. Having a black blade wouldn't really matter much if you can just manually cover it in haki and make it black that way like Zoro did in Dressrosa for example.)
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u/Careful-Ad3549 Sep 08 '24
I think Haki users can see when other people use Haki but not regular people. Haki is just your will power manifested so it's somewhat like an invinsible aura although Im pretty sure the hardening part of haki is visible considering the fact that Black blades are black because of the haki
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u/InvaderDJ Void Month Survivor Sep 08 '24
The anime exaggerates haki. Armament is either invisible or the black hardening with black and red lightning that we saw up until Wano.
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u/Dman317 Sep 07 '24
It has no color. Anime is not canon.
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u/NoIdeaWhatsGoinOnn Sep 07 '24
One Piece Red is canon
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u/Dman317 Sep 07 '24
The characters are but not the events.
Strong World is also not canon but Shiki is.
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u/Ehwhatsupdock Sep 07 '24
All of the movies are too
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u/Genesis13 Sep 07 '24
The movies arent canon, they just have canon elements in them such as Shiki or Uta. The events of the movie never happened in the canon storyline.
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u/Ehwhatsupdock Sep 07 '24
Uh, wrong. Oda said they're all canon
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u/Genesis13 Sep 07 '24
Source?
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u/Freaky_Ally Sep 07 '24
The source is : Oda told him so in a dream
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u/ReptilianLaserbeam Sep 07 '24
Haki doesn’t have color, that’s a liberty animators took
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u/GoldXP Cipher Pol Sep 07 '24
This only happens in the anime. These glows with different colors never happen in the manga. In fact I don't think these colored glows happens before or after Wano.
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u/DetectiveYukihime Sep 08 '24
Considering Haki is canonically invisible and everything we see is only so we the audience knows what's happening, no.
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u/ziadeldoksh Sep 07 '24
The worst thing ever happened is the visual effect on Haki.
and the referee whistle sound that blows whenever two haki users clash
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u/Amethyst271 Sep 07 '24 edited Sep 07 '24
yeah tbh the sound effects have always sucked in the anime
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u/CrackACold0ne Sep 08 '24
Toei has been recycling the same like 5 sounds effects for years
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u/Amethyst271 Sep 08 '24
its honestly always annoyed me with how repetitive and wrong the sound effects just are. its one of the reasons i dropped the anime and started the manga
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u/MarkoZoos Sep 07 '24
It depends on the mood of the art team animating the episode. meaning its an anime only thing.
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u/zonealus Sep 07 '24
The first time haki was used it doesn't even have a black coating it was just implied.
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u/Careful-Ad3549 Sep 08 '24
Im pretty sure the first time we saw it was on Jaya when Blackbeard said Luffys haki got stronger, he was using observation haki so I don't know why it would be coated
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u/HumorAffectionate966 Sep 08 '24
Yes armament haki is invisible or normal haki (which is armament) is like invisible armour like Rayleigh said , i guess it's for viewers to understand and give a better animation
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u/Ardibanan Explorer Sep 08 '24
Normally you wouldn't see haki as it is invisible, but certain conditions makes them visible imo. Coating your sword black or Luffy going G4 is possibly seen, or at least if you have CoO you can "see it"
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u/enigma7942 Sep 07 '24
Well the animators are adding some extra shits, some of them I don't like ....my personal opinion 🤢
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u/No-Opportunity5353 Sep 08 '24
It's whatever color the animator feels like that particular day of the week, really.
Hopefully the WIT version makes it more consistent if it gets there.
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u/south_bronx_parasyte Sep 08 '24
Best haki of all time was in film Z. Matte black without all the flashy auras and weird metallic textures.
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u/RedditUser19918 Sep 08 '24
Haki doesn't have color. Oda and animators only put color to it for visual representation.
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u/MaimedJester Sep 07 '24
It's invisible to non Haki users. Pre Timeskip Luffy/Zoro and Sanji couldn't see it at all.
Post Timeskip we Ussop Awakening Observation Haki directly in Dressrosa.
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u/winternoa Sep 07 '24
Haki is more like... an invisible "shockwave" for Conquerer's, black coating for Armament, and straight up invisible for Observation.
So the only version of Haki that has any color is Armament, which is always and only black.
Adding colors and shit is just anime doing fancy stuff but it's not really "canon," funnily enough.
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u/Andrejosue98 Sep 08 '24
No, armament haki is supposed to be an invisible armor, so all haki is supposed to be invisible
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u/Tyris727 Sep 08 '24
Oda has explained that haki is not visible and him drawing itq is for the benefit of the audience.
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u/Sorbet-Other Sep 08 '24
From what I know, they put these colors on the anime so it’s easier to see who is using the haki and because it’s cool… but I don’t remember Oda coloring the haki like this, in fact, I think that armament haki doesn’t make the body parts black, it’s only colored so you know they’re using it, but I could be wrong…
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u/Successful_Summer892 Sep 08 '24
It was very visible in Stampede when Bullet had blue haki and Luffy had red, but its just an artistic choice
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u/TheFlamingPosterior Sep 08 '24
I hope the colours are somehow official to what oda wants or something
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u/ParkingAd5757 Soul King Brook Sep 08 '24
It’s mainly an anime only thing but the characters that do usually just have one that goes with their aesthetic because it looks fuckin sick
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u/QuestboardWorkshop Sep 08 '24
Haki is not visible, they add the color in the anime/color pages and black in manga for us readers to know it's been used and how it's been used.
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u/CoffeeCatRailway Sep 08 '24
The color is anime only, although me and some friends came up with some head cannon for the metallic look.
Anyone able to use some form of haki (or at least observation) can see armorment (metallic).
Auras are probably similar, not sure about that…
Black blades haven’t been explained in the manga yet, so…
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u/fejable Sep 07 '24
here you go. you are welcome. https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/inxnap/gear_fourth_without_haki/
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u/caniuserealname Sep 07 '24
As readers/veiwers observing from a work where haki does not exist, we lack the ability to perceive it in the same way the characters in-world do, and so for our benefit haki is presented visually.
In-universe, haki is not visible. It can be sensed by other haki users, they're aware when something is coating themselves in armament, but they don't literally see it.
Now, you could say the colours represent different 'feelings' of haki. Maybe Luffys Haki feels slightly different that Hyougoro's haki. Or maybe it's just visually done that way so we can more easily recognise when a haki is coming from one person rather than the other in a clash, or maybe the animators just think its neat. We don't know.
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u/Masterkush0420 Sep 08 '24
He's literally shiny because he's rubber, and stretched out, Jesus has none of you watched the show? Read the manga? Seen a balloon?
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u/Dramatic-Cook-6968 Sep 08 '24
Haki means color, but it doesnt have one lol. Because its not visible
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u/Winter-Explanation-5 Sep 09 '24
This is false. Oda created Black Arm Zephyr, who gained his epithet over his mastery of Armament Haki. It was initially not visible, but it is now.
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u/Alternative_Ask8636 Sep 08 '24
That’s ryu.
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u/Wookenheimer Pirate Sep 08 '24 edited Sep 08 '24
And what is ryou?
Ryou is simply another name for CoA which is used in Wano.
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u/KawaiiThighs Devil Child Nico Robin Sep 08 '24
Well arlong has blue haki and don krieg has yellow haki Gaimon has green haki and you know the rest
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u/bullfrogger2 Sep 07 '24
Colors for haki are anime only, it's just to differentiate the characters a bit more.