r/BlackPeopleTwitter ☑️ 27d ago

Country Club Thread When the nepo-staffers gotta work

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u/-Experiment--626- 27d ago

Women are so bossy /s

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u/Extension-Pen-642 27d ago

They really are saying she's too demanding just because she expects them to not be braindead? 

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u/[deleted] 27d ago

I’m honestly dying from all these comments

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u/I-just-left-my-wife 27d ago

"You can't come to the vice president and just ask her to do something"

Wow, really? What a shocker. I would've thought anyone could waltz up and ask the vice president for shit

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u/st_rdt 27d ago

I would've thought anyone could waltz up and ask the vice president for shit

You think you just fell out of a coconut tree ?

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u/UnlimitedCalculus 27d ago

What if I did? I thought this was 'murica

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u/murderbox 27d ago

Just stick it on her schedule with no explanation and she won't ask any questions of course. They seem so offended she doesn't just bow down. 

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u/mpyne 26d ago

Yeah, I work for a Navy admiral and I would die professionally if I ever just plopped a meeting on her calendar with no background info.

She's pleasant to work for, that's not the thing, but how is the boss supposed to be prepared to do whatever I'm setting up a meeting for, if I don't give the boss any heads-up on what she's going to be asked for at the meeting??

This is very very basic staff-ology.

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u/fireinthemountains 26d ago

This answered some questions I had too. I kept hearing from capitol hill people that Kamala's staffers thought she was "hard to work with" and "won't agree to do anything" and they feel like they're "walking on eggshells" and variations on that. I was getting stonewalled trying to get work done that involved the administration because these staffers had all these claims and complaints and insisted nothing would go anywhere and that it's Kamala's fault.
It always seemed weird to me.
So what was ACTUALLY happening was the uppity-knowitall-fresh-outta-college staffers were mad that their boss was acting like a boss. Some of the most toxic people I've met in DC are staffers.

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u/hallo-und-tschuss 27d ago

So showing up and working wasn’t in the game plan?

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u/dennismfrancisart ☑️ 27d ago edited 27d ago

What the hell? Were they holdovers from the previous administration?

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u/jason9045 27d ago

Well that settles it, no way am I voting for a competent professional who expects the best out of her employees. That's not the kind of person I want running the country.

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u/lilbelleandsebastian 27d ago

the best? she doesn't even expect the best lol, she just expects you to be able to answer basic questions

"why is this in my schedule for today" is like the barest of bare bones expectations

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u/cilantro_so_good 26d ago

For fucking real.

I report to a senior director at a household name.

I have to be able to answer harder questions than "why" every single day. And he's not even executive level at this regular ass company.

Imagine keeping on staff that bitch and moan about having to be good at their job working for the Vice President

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u/ismashugood 26d ago

This is probably the reason why they’re ex-staffers. If your job is to brief someone, and they’re more prepared to discuss the issue than you are…. What the fuck are you even doing?

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u/freshlysqueezed93 26d ago

Especially a staffer for the PRESIDENT, that is a super prestigious job which should only be looking for incredibly talented and knowledgeable people.

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u/Turbulent_Athlete_50 27d ago

Give me back my crayons jimmy!!! I want to make art

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u/Emergency-Practice37 27d ago

And more ketchup for my Dino-Nuggies!

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u/MakeChinaLoseFace 27d ago

You're joking but that is literally what Trump did in his first term. His crusade against the "deep state" was a purge of institutional expertise.

It was a deliberate, self-inflicted brain drain. Conservatives think the "deep state" is a bunch of baby-eating demon wizards, but it's really just all the people who know how shit works.

They know this, of course. The conspiracy theories are an act, because it's harder to pitch shooting yourself in the foot because a class of ultra-wealthy people want to undo the last 200 years of progress. They just want slaves again, and they know they can't say it out loud unless it's a 1000 dollar a plate GOP fundraiser.

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u/SaveTheLadybugs 26d ago

I tried so hard to argue this point when Trump was first elected. Can you imagine if every time a new CEO was hired, the company also fired literally every single employee and started over with all new employees? Literal insanity. No one would know anything, productivity and efficiency would plummet, and nothing would get done. Yet somehow it’s “corruption” that some of the same people have been working their government jobs for decades.

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u/MakeChinaLoseFace 26d ago

I love that you chose that as your example, because that kind of cyclic layoff shit is regularly done in corporate America. It is dumb for exactly the reasons you mention and more, but it still happens because Wall Street is treated like an angry god that must be appeased by sacrifices of labor.

Never mind that labor is the thing that actually creates value... a certain kind of cancerous and outright evil corporate philosophy sees employees as a cost to be cut. That type of boss sees capitalism for what it is - a race to the bottom - and they came to win.

Management will fire the most people it can, and aim to deliver the worst quality that investors and consumers still tolerate.

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u/jitterscaffeine 27d ago

Damn, this bitch is professional AND prepared? The horror

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u/HarmlessSnack 27d ago

I find a shit load of political attack ads end up making me like the people I was already going to vote for more.

They’re really not very good at this lol

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u/Misfit_Number_Kei 27d ago

Reminds back in 2012 when same-sex marriage was on the state-level ballot and some good ol' boy was driving around in a pickup truck with a blown-up picture of a soldier straddling or being straddled (I forget which) by his boyfriend above the caption, "IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT TO HAPPEN?!"

And besides the obvious, "Yes, duh!" it was pointed out how piss-easy it'd be to spin the photo as a pro-same-sex marriage ad given that it's a soldier who served his country/fought for your freedoms, so why not pay it back by voting for his freedom to marry the man he loves.

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u/lazyeyepsycho 27d ago

I like her even more now

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u/Arctica23 27d ago

She's the kind of person who I want to be President. Not perfect, but smart, prepared, hardworking, and competent.

It's a hard job and it takes a professional to be good at it.

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u/reddit_tothe_rescue 26d ago

Exactly who I want as president. Not to mention someone who expects hard work and competence from everyone around them too. That’s fucking leadership.

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u/KILL_WITH_KINDNESS 27d ago

Something about this made me pumped and afraid. The nerve to have such efficiency!

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u/ThoughtfulCephalopod 27d ago

She laughs, too. Watch the fuck out.

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u/Jesta23 27d ago

This just makes me like her more. 

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u/hnglmkrnglbrry ☑️ 27d ago

"That punctual negro was very uppity - especially for a woman."

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u/IDontKnowu501 ☑️ 27d ago

That's what I read too

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u/ygduf 27d ago

I thought this was an add for her, reading everything and knowing what’s going on? Great.

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u/Sixwingswide 27d ago

right?

"reasons behind why certain items had been added to her schedule"

Well no shit, if you can't explain why you added it then why the fuck are you adding it?

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u/Silverjackal_ 27d ago

“She read all the materials” I remember when people would complain they’d spend hours making something and their boss or leadership didn’t even read it. Reading this is crazy

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u/iruleatants 27d ago

For some reason pointing out that once of her great grandparents was raped by a slave owner didn't work, so now they have switch to pointing out that she's good at her job?

I just don't understand.

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u/CabanyalCanyamelar 27d ago

The whole excerpt is nonsense but this one got me especially…

“Btw we’re doing this now and adding it to your schedule, you have to be there.”

“Ok, why?”

shocked pikachu face

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u/ladyevenstar-22 26d ago

It's not like she said no 🤷🏽‍♀️ she said why 🤔

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u/Geodude532 26d ago

I had an officer like this in Korea. When she came in for the morning briefings you better make sure you have answers for anything she could ask about our mission. Sometimes we had to rely on the experts for more technical questions, but a lot of it was based on our judgement and she made sure we were confident in it. Loved that woman. Made us feel like we actually belonged to something and not just filling in busy work that the Army wanted metrics on. Kamala will make those that learn from her feel like they belong to something big, even if their job is to answer fan mail.

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u/loptopandbingo 27d ago

"I don't care how articulate she is, the notion that I have to actually do my job is just unsettling!"

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u/Extension-Pen-642 27d ago

100%, it sounds like they are uncomfortable with having a black woman in a position of authority. 

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u/GaiaMoore 26d ago

An extremely talented and competent black woman.

She seems like the kind of leader who would correct a typo or (kindly) grill you on logical flaws in some footnote on page 43 of some report that no one actually expected her to find time to read and annotate

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u/yourroyalhotmess ☑️ 27d ago

Thats so wild how we all read the same thing 😂 Oh well, Uppity Negro for Prez 2024!! We ain’t goin back.

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u/worldspawn00 26d ago

100% has my vote!

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u/-Experiment--626- 27d ago

Being black is bad enough, the gall to also be a woman.

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u/SadLilBun 27d ago

And a professional. Some people have quite the audacity.

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u/Impossible-Ad-3060 27d ago

Don’t forget demanding. She’s a demanding, professional black woman.

Exactly the person who should be president.

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u/lustforsun 26d ago

And she appears to be happy. Unacceptable

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u/Southern_Initial_427 27d ago

10000000% Uppity.

I promise it’s some high level donors kid who is appalled that the daughter of an immigrant expected them to work.

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u/DimbyTime 27d ago

The daughter of TWO immigrants!

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u/LadyBug_0570 ☑️ 26d ago

If those MAGAs knew anything about immigrants or their children, they would know we WORK.

After all, you don't see their asses in 100+degree heat picking vegetables, do you? Or taking care of rich people's brats as live-in nannies?

And those are the undocumented immigrants.

No, they just complain immigrants are taking their jobs, even though those are jobs they feel are beneath them.

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u/DimbyTime 26d ago

Ironically Kamala’s immigrant parents are more educated than 98%of Americans.

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u/LadyBug_0570 ☑️ 26d ago

Of course. Yet MAGA hillbillies who barely passed 5th grade want to talk shit about immigrants.

You know the other thing about immigrants? They usually can speak at least 2 languages while those AHs can barely manage the one language they learned from birth.

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u/MeringueAppropriate1 27d ago

Thank you!!! This got uppity negro written all over it!!!

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u/Ricky_Rollin 27d ago

Absolutely amazes me to see the same people who would normally consider this the Americans spirit and a bootstrapping attitude, but because the spineless hypocrites are who they are now it’s a bad thing. Losers.

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u/LiberateMeFromYou 27d ago

Just sounds like a boss that wants you to do your job

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u/Phiyasko ☑️ 27d ago

So they're mad at her because she expects people collecting a paycheck to actually do the job they're collecting said paycheck for? 

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u/jacksonmills 27d ago

Lol yeah this reads like “entitled assholes get thrown out, presidential candidate seeks people who will actually do job”

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u/Elawn 27d ago

Seriously, skimming what I can of the wapo article in the post it’s fucking crazy they’re trying to spin this as a negative. It’s the fucking presidency, you want the people running the country to be lax about this shit??

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u/Imthemayor 27d ago

"She was more prepared than they were"

So, she didn't need them then, got it

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u/Elawn 27d ago

Right?? Like, haven’t they all been working at the same place for the past four years? Am I missing something here???

Edit: Especially because Biden could’ve dropped dead at any moment being in his 80s, like how could you not have been preparing for her to be president???

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u/SPQR-VVV 26d ago

Because they are used to doing just the bare minimum and getting a paycheck. Not a difficult concept, people like that don't care about duty, or pride in their work or the idea of doing a good job.

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u/LadyBug_0570 ☑️ 26d ago

Shit, at my job I have to more knowledgeable than the goddam attorney I work for. She's just expecting them to be on par with her. Or close to it.

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u/Select_Calendar_6590 26d ago

Saaaammmeee! I’m the one researching identifying and preparing the answers for my Transaction Manager while she takes the credit & elevates her career. Kamala reads annotates and prepares for discussion? She’s just expecting the same from her staff in return.

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u/Oblivious_Orca 27d ago

This is the height of entitlement. Imagine being a staffer to the VP of the United States and crying about being made to feel uncomfortable for being lazy as hell at your job.

Wow. Just wow.

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u/LegitimateSaIvage 27d ago

I read the part about "she's read the materials" and my mind went blank for a second. Like, fuckin obviously? Or not so obviously I guess, if it's being spun as a problem that the Vice President of the United States of America actually...reads?

Also, I remember how Obama was reported to read 100's of pages of briefs and other materials a day. Every day. I can guarantee you he was asking for, and expected, details from his staff. Interesting that this now suddenly a problem (a "problem") when it's a woman in the seat.

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u/cccanterbury 26d ago

I think the problem is that the staffers got used to Trump, and then got used to Biden, not that they object because she's a woman.

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u/SaltyBarracuda4 26d ago

Are the staffers persistent across administrations? Does it include stuff like DoD/DoJ employees briefing the president?

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u/zherok 26d ago

One of the things that the then incoming Trump administration was wholly unprepared for was the many staffers they had to fill in, because they did not come with from the previous administration.

Hardly the last thing he underestimated about the job, of course. I'm sure there are some staffers who do carry over but apparently there's something like 4000 staffers who need to be selected by the President, with over a thousand of them needing Senate confirmation.

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u/OneBigRed 26d ago

Chris Christie was setting up a transition team for Trump, but then Trump saw an article about it, and the cost of millions was quoted. He called Christie yelling how he is stealing his money, and it needs to stop.

Christie then wanted to know how Trump plans to handle the transition, and the answer was ”we’ll figure it out, me and Jared and Ivanka”.

Someone might think that the plan didn’t include winning at all, and that’s why spending the campaign funds was seen as a out of pocket expense.

And Jared actually was clueless enough to ask outgoing administration that how many staffers would be staying on, and surprised to learn that nobody (of political appointees by the Obama admin that everyone in the staff is…) would stay on.

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u/zherok 26d ago

I agree Trump probably didn't expect to win, but I think his moment with Christie was also quite likely just because he's a gigantic shithead who thinks any money he can get his hands on is his own private slush fund. There's a reason he can't have a charity in New York after all.

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u/Punkpallas 27d ago edited 26d ago

I've been an executive assistant to several high-ranking military officers and civilian counterparts. I'm galled just reading the excerpt here. That's your fucking job, people. And I actually appreciate a boss who takes time to read the reports I write and ask questions. It shows they appreciate my effort. I also like working for people who pay attention to what's going on around them, even the small things.

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u/Technical_Ad_4894 27d ago

Sounds like you need to put your resume in.

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u/Punkpallas 26d ago

Lol I do not think I could handle working for someone THIS high profile. I'm good.

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u/Misanthropebutnot 26d ago

Right? They have the balls to work for her but not the substance to back it up. Drives me nuts when I think of all the brilliant people I have crossed paths with who would not feel confident to do so.

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u/healthy_fats 26d ago

Not with that attitude you can't.... Honestly the number of skilled people who refuse to believe in themselves is infuriating. You're a winner, go fucking win.

Seriously.... The biggest driver towards high profile roles is not skill but willingness. Go do it. Stop selling yourself short.

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u/spamfalcon 26d ago

To be fair, that didn't seem like "I'm not capable of the job" but more of an "I don't want to deal with that life" concern. Just because you don't want to be in the vicinity of a giant spotlight, it doesn't mean you are selling yourself short.

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u/RobertMcCheese 27d ago

FFS, I was only managing an IT team of about 20 people.

And I expected that everyone come to my staff meetings prepared for the issues that would be brought up.

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u/jacksonmills 27d ago

It's like these former staffers were all PMs from the tech world, "ah fuck it lets just shove it in there and not think about it"

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u/Elawn 27d ago

I’m also working in the tech world right now, and I just wanna say it is Friday night and I did not appreciate reading that, no matter the accuracy 😂

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u/Rathalosdown 27d ago

The funniest part IMO is how they said they can’t just walk up to the vice president and ask HER to do something without a why.

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u/Chaotic_MintJulep 27d ago

IKR 😂😂😂😂

Where have these people been working before? This is just like… regular boss stuff lol

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u/MegaGrimer 26d ago

Ikr. I work a minimum wage job and I’m still expected to explain why I need my boss to do something that I can’t. And I have to describe the problem in full so they know how to handle it immediately when they are able to address it.

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u/Extension-Pen-642 27d ago

I lowkey love the part where they say that she even asks why when complimented haha

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u/what_the_purple_fuck 26d ago

the nerve of her, making it difficult for people to mindlessly and meaninglessly suck up

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u/inplayruin 27d ago

She also prepared properly to do her job. Plus, the compliment bit suggests she hates a kiss ass. A hard worker who is reflexively suspicious of flattery? Sounds like someone who will be a damn good president.

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u/Grouchy-Safe-3486 26d ago

absolutly agree with u

Harris and Flournoy’s defenders also note that women in power—Black women in particular—are subjected to standards that men often don’t have to clear. A tough and demanding office environment may be seen as a virtue for one and a sign of disorder and lack of leadership acumen for another

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/30/kamala-harris-office-dissent-497290

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u/Select_Calendar_6590 26d ago

I didn’t hear that but I love it. I’m so tired of people getting ahead from being a down noser instead of doing the work.

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u/SmarterThanYouIRL 27d ago

This checks out as a grievance from the campaign for someone who had 8 hours of “executive time” on his daily schedule in the White House

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u/dont-YOLO-ragequit 27d ago

Didn't they say Trump staff had to avoid big words, highlight points of emphasis and have lots of pictures taking the biggest part of briefing pages?

The bar was very low.

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u/illstate 27d ago edited 27d ago

There were reports that if they wanted Trump to read anything, they had to find ways to mention him several times a page in their reports.

Plus he used to get a folder delivered to him everyday with articles from random blogs written by sycophants kissing his ass.

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u/hyrule_47 27d ago

I heard someone literally reads them to him

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u/ImNotSureMaybeADog 26d ago

"Big word you won't understand, Trump, big word you won't understand, stop raping the lasses, big word you won't understand."

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u/eolson3 26d ago

They would never admit any shortcoming. They'd call it "a lefty word" or a "sleepy metaphor" or something.

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u/Jedimaster996 27d ago

Who would have thought the only job you'd be qualified for after working as an Aide to Trump would be a daycare teacher?

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u/ygduf 27d ago

Most of the people working for him are not allowed anywhere near schools or children

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u/Mistavez 27d ago

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u/Shadow-Vision 26d ago

Stuck in my head now

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u/Jenetyk 26d ago

all eyes on me and imma send it up to Pac

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u/twoprimehydroxyl 26d ago

AY

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u/Fit-Statistician-744 26d ago

PUT THE WHOLE LABEL ON ME IMMA GET EM DROPPED!

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u/Quesarito808 26d ago

A Minorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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u/schadkehnfreude 26d ago

Certified Ohioan? Certified Sofaphile

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u/twoprimehydroxyl 26d ago

GOP GOP GOP GOP GOP

Walz, fuck em up

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u/Grigoran 26d ago

Certified LazyBoy?

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u/DisposableSaviour 26d ago

And a certified pedophile on the same ticket

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u/GaiaMoore 26d ago

Predators move in flocks

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u/_ayoz 26d ago

A MINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

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u/PmpknSpc321 26d ago

Certified loverboy? Certified PEDOPHILE

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u/Due-Topic7995 27d ago

I shouldn’t have lol’d as hard as I did but it’s true

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u/metagawd ☑️ 27d ago

Damn, Doc Savage.

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u/fancierfootwork 27d ago

Yeah but think of it this way.

They earned their paychecks. Imagine giving important notes in goo-goo gah-gah speak with pictures of blues clues sprinkled in.

Just dumbing that down seems like a feat.

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u/LemmyKBD 27d ago

Briefing on why nuclear war is bad: “(Page 1) It would destroy golf courses. <Huge pic of golf course in flames>. (Page 2) It would destroy Diet Coke factory. <Huge pic of burning factory with ‘Diet Coke’ written in sharpie>.” End briefing.

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u/fancierfootwork 27d ago

No the Diet Coke factory!

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u/ImNotSureMaybeADog 26d ago

"You can't nuke hurricanes."

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u/mechwarrior719 27d ago

That’s why they’re mad. Preparing a presentation for an actual adult is much more difficult than preparing one for a toddler.

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u/Solo_Fisticuffs ☑️Sunshine ☀️ 26d ago

you ever try to explain anything to a toddler? one wrong word and you either get an adorable ramble about the most random isolated detail or an angry continuous outburst because you used the wrong phrasing and they didn't understand

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u/TangledUpPuppeteer 27d ago

Trump’s aides: “Here’s a lovely picture by Maisie in Kentucky. She’s 3. It’s a picture of a flower and it represents the increasing tax burden on the American people while inflation… and the bumble bee is happy about gas prices in South Sudan are shaped like fuzzy bunnies with Trump stamped across their tails in gold

Kamala’s aides: “but Madam President, you’ve already read, understood and practically memorized the 900 pages I prepared. What more would you like me to present? I’m tired! Why aren’t you tired?! You didn’t even let me add a graph!”

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u/Apollyon314 27d ago

That just put the image in my mind if his daily security briefs in the big folder with official presidential seal on it. He opens in and its basically a picture book and "how-to-be presidential" tips of the day. Lol

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u/Medium_Medium 27d ago

Honestly it sounds like being a staffer for Harris would be a joy compared to being a staffer for Trump. Harris just expects you to be prepared and be thorough. Trump expects you to basically be the president for him behind the scenes, and then he'll go do whatever he feels like in the moment anyway.

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u/Misstheiris 27d ago

Imagine spending ages writing a briefing, backing up all the points with well researched footnotes, you hand it to your boss, and they not only read it, they read the footnotes and then ask for a clarification on the footnote. I would die of happiness.

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u/zherok 27d ago

Honestly, that sounds awful to deal with. Like Harris is requiring competency, but who wants to babysit a 78-year old? Who will likely constantly undermine things you do because he's easily manipulated by the last person to have spoken to him.

You've got former Trump administration that talk about averting stuff like war by taking things off his desk, because he couldn't be trusted to even see those papers without fucking it up.

I don't want to give any real credit to the "adults in the room" there, but if anyone had half a care in the Trump administration it was probably hell to work for him.

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u/quirkycurlygirly 27d ago

She used to go after fraudsters. She ain't about that corruption. Kamala standing on business.

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u/__M-E-O-W__ 27d ago

And we're talking about someone going for the presidency of the USA. Maybe I'm soapboxing here... but I think this is a position that requires some pretty high level assistants.

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u/HanselSoHotRightNow 27d ago

There's a million+ people out here who got that 7am wake up ready to fuck with a brain designed to memorize, organize, and more importantly... do it better than all these other motherfuckers in the job currently and they want these jobs. Ol' sleepy time staffers better be ready to prove their worth.

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u/NamiSwaaan ☑️ 27d ago

A wonder that I'm seeing this gif for the first time

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u/TPJchief87 ☑️ 27d ago

She sounds like a great mentor honestly. I have some hard ass mentors in my career and it only made me better. Best to learn these lessons young.

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u/GuntherTime 27d ago

This shit would be right up my alley. If I’m putting in all this effort into researching shit, I would hope someone ask me why. Like challenge me on this shit. Either I’m gonna defend my reasons, or I’ll concede and it’ll just make the overall product better.

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u/PrisonaPlanet 27d ago

I mean in their defense, I’d be a little upset if my boss randomly started expecting me to work too…

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u/Queasy_Pickle1900 27d ago

Agree. What kind of dystopian world are we living in where you are being held accountable for your job?

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u/NicholaiJomes 27d ago

Yeah this is like a glowing review of her leadership style

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u/0mish0 27d ago

I can't imagine working for the Vice President/potential President of the United States and not being fucking prepared.

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u/EfferentCopy 27d ago

This seems like the absolute bare minimum. My job has always been to get in the weeds on my boss’s behalf so they can summarize and communicate to higher-ups. I provide them with analysis, summaries, and recommendations. The higher up in a chain of management you get, the more general your work becomes, so having competent, knowledgeable support staff who provide you with the most important, necessary details in a timely manner is absolutely essential.

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u/Global_Damage 27d ago

Wonder how many briefings they went to and got called out along the way, without thinking, I better know the shit I put in the briefing. If they went to more than two without changing, then they should have been fired

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u/Head_Mud6239 27d ago

Sexist ass shit. 💩If she were a man words like dedicated, no-nonsense, strong would be thrown around. Good for Harris for making them do their job.

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u/finny_d420 27d ago

This so much. I work for concerts. Male entertainers who are late/difficult/intoxicated are "particular" or "know what they want" or "personal demons". Women are called "divas/bitches", "demanding/unreasonable", "drunks".

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u/KhaleesiXev 27d ago

These double standards need to die already, so I can’t wait for Kamala to win and show them what real leadership looks like.

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u/townshiprebellion24 ☑️ 27d ago

Corporate media is really grasping at straws to paint Kamala Harris in a negative light. Just pay your fucking taxes, Jeff.

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u/FCkeyboards 27d ago

Yeah it doesn't even sound like the employees were angry or anything. They were just able to hang and acknowledged you have to bring your A game.

I imagine there are staffers who work for people who barely ask anything of them.

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u/XLauncher ☑️ 27d ago

I read the whole article and it's pretty fair, featuring quotes from staffers who had both negative and positive things to say, as well as contextualizing some of the feedback, like noting that Pence had almost as high staff turnover as she did.

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u/H-TownDown ☑️ 27d ago

The writer of an article and the writer of a headline are not the same person most of the time.

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u/Ayacyte 27d ago

Wait... does that mean there's someone who's primary job is to write headlines? Would explain some things

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u/RampanToast 26d ago

That is exactly what it means. Any time you see a headline that completely changes the context of what's written in the article, it's almost always because it was written by a different writer.

A really good example is that headline about "to save money, just skip breakfast". The headline was presented as "haha poors, go and suffer" but the actual article was just a regular piece about rising grocery costs and inflation. The closest thing to a life change recommendation in the article is to buy roasted instead of instant coffee because of the differences in inflation between the two. And so many people shit on the writer for telling them to skip breakfast, because they couldn't get past the ragebait of the headline.

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u/rbnlegend 26d ago

Especially true if it's a science article. The article is summarizing a report, which is summarizing the actual results of the experiment. Then the headline is written based on that. The one that I recall is "Study shows that pregnant women should eat more milk chocolate". What the study actually found was no significant differences in certain metrics between pregnant women who are dark chocolate vs milk chocolate. It's like a game of telephone.

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u/townshiprebellion24 ☑️ 27d ago

I appreciate the due diligence.

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u/EdStarC 27d ago

What do you mean. This is clearly a positive spin

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u/catiebug 27d ago

Yeah this is so weirdly positive she could make it an ad, sheesh. Reads like a fucking SNL sketch. They really thought they got her.

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u/W359WasAnInsideJob 27d ago

Really does read as satire, it’s wild.

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u/Certain-Definition51 27d ago

Ahhhh people who haven’t been to law school, forced to work for people who have been to law school.

This is the inversion of the classic “people who have been through boot camp working for people who have not been to boot camp.”

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u/ra_ed_it 27d ago

Right? This is the basic method of all competent lawyers

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u/guywithaniphone22 27d ago

I work as a sort of legal assistant and if I go to one of my lawyers and tell them something needs to be done they are going to also expect me to tell them why it’s being done. People who are decision makers can’t make fucking decisions if they don’t know why they are doing what they are doing. In an actual law firm setting any assistant telling their boss to do something but not explaining further will be out the door quickly lol

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u/cageytalker 27d ago

Legal assistant here and 100%

I made a big mistake once and was scared to tell my boss. When I did, he asked me what could be done to fix it and I told him what I thought was best. He told me, “okay then go with that!” then turned his chair back to his computer.

Lawyers just want to know the problem, the facts, and the solution. They don’t care how you get from point A to point F, they just want to know you are handling and finalizing the issue at hand correctly.

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u/DragonToothGarden 27d ago

When I was a baby lawyer my boss assured me that, at least in civil litigation, there are very few mistakes an attorney or paralegal can make that cannot be fixed without filing a few papers. I overprepared so many things out of sheer terror of fucking up a client's case.

And yes, we absolutely relied so much on our support staff who knew far more about so many procedural rules we just didn't have the brain space or energy to keep up with.

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u/Indercarnive 27d ago

I go to my boss asking literally anything I better be prepared with a why. Even something like "I can't find this information" needs to also include a "and I looked here, here, and there plus asked this other guy" or I'm going to get a stink eye.

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u/kdove89 27d ago

In the wise words of Britney spears. "You gotta work bitch".

She means business, no way she wants slackers working for her.

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u/Ok_Radish649 ☑️ 27d ago

Breaking news: boss expects employees to do job they are assigned to do.

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u/DFuhbree 27d ago

This sounds infinitely better than a man known not to read his security briefings and who just believes everything Vladimir Putin tells him.

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u/perhensam 27d ago

Maybe it’s just me, but I honestly can’t remember ever hearing about any male politician’s staff bitching about their boss. And I honestly don’t think it’s because all male politicians are awesome managers. I think that the media loves to highlight the tired stereotype of women leaders- which is nothing but sexism. Don’t they have any actual news to report?

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u/subZro_ 27d ago

Is this supposed to be a negative? Because that's how I operate. If you come into my workspace with some shit I'm for real going to need to know why it is you're bothering me.

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u/Pad_Squad_Prof 27d ago

Someone once told me this is why I’m disliked at work. Because I’m always paying attention in meetings and ask very specific questions. I’ve unfortunately gotten into the habit of defending myself before I start asking: “As you know I always have a lot of questions….” I hate it.

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u/camy__23 27d ago

This is only a story because she’s a non white woman.

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u/a_guy121 27d ago

It's only a negative story because she's a black woman but I read this and I like her so much more now. (I was already a fan.)

The spin on this is crazy. The staffers kind of have a point in that as far as I know, it is not the norm to read through all the briefings/paperwork, if you're the one being breifed. The staff do it for you and describe it and you ask them questions.

They're basically saying she's too good. And I fully buy that she is that, because she's had to be. And if they can't play up to her level, I fully buy they quite a little miffed, because she challenged them to be better.

These are good things. Really, really good things.

I never thought I'd love a black prosecutor, but there it is.

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u/Gorge2012 27d ago

It was well known that Obama would stay up late just reading through everything. He knew his stuff too. The nicest thing I can say is I don't believe it was the same for the people who occupied that office directly before and after him.

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u/DadJokeBadJoke 26d ago

Sadly, one of the best takes I've seen about Trump is that he's "intellectually incurious". He had access to so much information and experts to explain it to him, but he just didn't care. He's so full of hubris that he thinks he knows more than the experts and can figure out a solution on the fly. That's how we ended up with his suggestions like using a "strong, proven flu vaccine" or "injecting bleach" or "shining a bright light inside of the body" seemed like possible solutions to him that maybe the scientists didn't consider when they were fighting a global pandemic. He doesn't understand the scientific process, he thinks they're spaying random chemicals on the virus to see what might kill it, like my wife battling ants in the kitchen.

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u/Gorge2012 26d ago

"Intellectually incurious" is very generous.

At best he knows something about people. I'm not sure how to describe it. However, he seems to think that making people agree with you is the same as being right. This is me being as kind as possible here. I would normally use some harsher language.

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u/CatzMeow27 27d ago

As I read it, I knew they were trying to make her sound bad, but this is exactly what I want in the person leading our country. Leaders are supposed to be engaged. They are supposed to hold their team accountable. They need to know their subject matter, and they absolute need to be asking “why?”. How is it appealing to want a leader who takes things at face value and follows orders without question? Heck, I’m trying to teach my own kiddos to always seek the “why” behind what they’re doing or what they’ve been told. Why would I want less in the president of my freakin country?

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u/thpj00 27d ago

I heard it’s a ‘problem’ staffers had with Jimmy Carter back in the day, that he actually took the job extremely seriously and did the enormous amount of reading in the giant briefings dumped on his desk. Always respected that guy as one of the most decent people to ever hold the job.

But yes it’s totally racialised/genderised, I think white dudes (like me) so often feel they can get away with the bare minimum because life is that much more forgiving to them

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u/Air_Ace 26d ago

With Carter, they tried to spin it as him having a tendency to get lost in the weeds, and focus too much on irrelevant minutiae. "The nuclear engineer is thorough and detail-oriented! This must be a negative somehow!" The shitclown brigade will always attack something. They can't be appeased, only ignored.

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u/TheGentleBeast 27d ago

This is exactly how my boss operates. She's a woman in a very male dominated field in a very male dominated country. She is constantly catching people off guard with how prepared and knowledgeable she is on a given subject. She approves nothing without in-depth reasoning and logic for said approval. She wants us to be as thorough as she's had to be her entire life.

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u/mekkavelli 27d ago

i can see why she’s so on top of everything. they’re literally watching her like a hawk on a stray cat. they’re waiting for her to slip up. and since she hasn’t? they’re pullin bullshit like this outta thin air. black women can’t afford to be caught off guard in these spaces

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u/Special-Garlic1203 27d ago

They've used similar smears against Hillary. Women are to be submissive and kind. Educated women who are matter of fact and direct are painted as if frankness is the same thing as cruelty.

Meanwhile men are straight up screaming at and sexually  assaulting people and you don't hear a word about it.

Compare Bill vs Hillary. It's the misogyny of the machine. And up until now, people have largely eaten it up. 

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u/toooldforacnh 27d ago

Or a white dude. If that were the case this article would have been saying how exceptional they are for having high standards.

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u/dennismfrancisart ☑️ 27d ago

Holy crap! A team leader who expects her team to be prepared to work at one of the most important jobs in the world. Imagine that.

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u/sashafierce525 27d ago

If she was a man they would be calling it leadership. 🤦🏽‍♀️

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u/auauaurora ☑️ Thunder down under 27d ago

She reads footnotes?!

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u/Xannabiscuit ☑️ 27d ago

This is highkey very attractive.

About fucking time someone with real competence.

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u/annacaiautoimmune 27d ago

There are major complements in these complaints. Love It!

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u/shawnmd 27d ago

That is EXACTLY who I want running my country.

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u/fletch626 27d ago

So hot, don't stop, keep talking...

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u/Armthedillos5 27d ago

Working for her is hard because she already knows everything and expects you to know the one tiny bit of it that is your responsibility.

Man, let's put the push-over baby that needs pictures and crayons back in office, this sounds horrible! /s

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u/WickedJigglyPuff 27d ago

Who wants to do stuff without knowing why? Why is like the most important thing!

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u/curious-trex 27d ago

Is this supposed to be a negative piece??

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u/LordMemerton1 27d ago

So if I don’t do my job, do I also expect to get paid…? Trying to figure that one out

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u/ApplicationCalm649 27d ago

All I'm hearing is reasons she'd make a great President.

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u/Hushwalker 27d ago

An attorney general is buttoned up, sharp as nails and stays ontop of her shit? I’m shocked

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u/fade-touched 27d ago

hang on... lot of us out here answering to incompetent adult toddlers at work. and they're crying because she actually reviewed everything in detail and had the nerve to ask them relevant questions about the materials THEY made for her?

"she made me think all the time and I couldn't just tell her what to do with no context, it was so stressful" baby is this your first job?