r/BlackPeopleTwitter ☑️ BHM Donor Jul 27 '24

Country Club Thread This is why A.I is dangerous

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u/smkAce0921 ☑️ Jul 27 '24

Anyone dumb enough to fall for this shit was voting MAGA anyway and already lost lol

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u/French_Taylor ☑️ Jul 27 '24

Yeah, I was gonna say that anyone falling for this probably eats lightbulbs or something.

There’s so much wrong with that video that you can’t even call it a deepfake lol. I do fear the day when AI improves and make it very hard to distinguish.

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u/pariah1981 Jul 27 '24

By that point no one will believe real or fake unless it’s corroborated by an actual human. That’s the only copium I can hold onto.

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u/uberblack ☑️ Jul 27 '24 edited Aug 11 '24

anyone falling for this probably eats lightbulbs

I know it's cliché to say shit like "I almost spit out my drink", but fam, this one caught me off guard and it's my fault for taking a sip while reading anything in this damn subreddit

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u/French_Taylor ☑️ Jul 28 '24

Lol I feel you! I just resort to using “PFFT” in its place lol

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u/koviko ☑️ Jul 27 '24

They do about halfway through start laying it on heavy to make it clear to reasonable people that we're on the same page as the creators that this is fake, making it effectively satire.

But to people who are stupid, the satire will go right over their heads and they'll take it as true. Even when the do one last obvious falseness at the end with her just straight up saying "shit."

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u/slashinhobo1 Jul 27 '24

There will be tons of people who fall for it. Ypu dont need to get everyone, just a small percentage in those swing states.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

It’s crazy how the emphasis today is all on what someone said, not the people dumb enough to believe it.

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u/Hunter-Gatherer_ Jul 27 '24 edited Jul 27 '24

I keep saying it, people need to leave that platform. Let the racists and the inbreds have it. Musk has admitted that it’s his purpose to destroy the “woke mind mob” whatever the fuck that means but he’s letting lies and hatred run rampant. Leave X please.

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u/DShinobiPirate Jul 27 '24

Left that shit back in 2020. Does great for your mental health lol.

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u/zhiryst Jul 27 '24

Deleted my account in 2023. Fuck Twitter, fuck x, fuck Elon.

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u/Drazian ☑️ BHM Donor Jul 27 '24

They’re really scared of this woman aren’t they? I wonder how many over the age of 30 is going to fall for this?

Thiss man owns Twitter yall still buying his cars still putting money in his pocket so he can keep using Twitter to promote things like this.

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u/Fixurappls Jul 27 '24

This is why I would never buy Tesla we got people putting money in this ignorant man's pocket.

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u/DetBallz Jul 27 '24

Exactly. I used to think his cars were the future but I’ll never support any company this guy controls.

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u/MyFriendsCallMeTito Jul 28 '24

This is the thing I hate the most about him. It’s not just that he’s a racist pos. His legacy could have been saving the planet by making electric cars a status symbol and going green cool. But, he just had to throw it all away to be an “edgy” racist pos.

I hope he gets his head stuck in a cybertruck trunk.

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u/BZenMojo ☑️ Jul 27 '24

Also half of them are made out of cheap lumber anyway.

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u/BlackManWorking ☑️ Jul 28 '24

Agreed!! In the US, we vote with our money and Tesla is no longer on my EV list to buy.

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u/DMercenary Jul 27 '24

They’re really scared of this woman aren’t they?

From rumors, the entire campaign was being run on the basis of fighting Joe Biden. Now that Biden is out they aint got shit.

You seen the shit they were trying "She laughs weird." That's the best they have right now.

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u/Chef_Writerman Jul 27 '24

Also ‘She slept her way to the top’. That’s the only other one I see.

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u/Amazing-Concept1684 Jul 27 '24

Bc she dated Montel Williams 23 years ago. 

They got nothing.

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u/slashinhobo1 Jul 27 '24

Even then, how many people have slept with him and still where they are. I'm not hating on Montel. I'd imagine if you were trying to sleep your way to being a vp, montel would be like 1 step out of 1000 crazy hookups of getting there.

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u/koviko ☑️ Jul 27 '24

montel would be like 1 step out of 1000 crazy hookups of getting there

And this is actually what they are claiming, that she's given a blow job to people at every rung of the ladder, which she gives head so fucking good that it gets her to the top of the nation...

I'm still waiting on mine, if true. 🤣

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u/unoforall Jul 27 '24

How do you sleep your way to multiple elected positions?

None of it holds water if people stop to actually think for just one second. But conservatives are incapable of that kind of critical thinking.

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u/SheFoundMyUzername Jul 27 '24

They don’t have to convince republicans to not vote for Kamala, they just have to convince a fraction of democrats. With that in mind, here is my unsolicited opinion 😂, I think the strategy is more subtle, stuff like “no one is pumped to vote for her”, “the focus on her cop background” etc.

Really anything that wreaks too much of a progressive purity test. Like yes, the party loves to cannibalize itself by making everyone prove how progressive they actually are, but the anti-trump sentiment is a uniting force for the left and the more progressive you are the more of an existential threat Trump becomes.

So, if I see comments with a “Kamala isn’t even a true leftist” I can be pretty confident that’s a bot. Because the more politically active you are for the left you’d have to be actually stupid to think this is the appropriate moment to push your wildly unpopular far left political views 🤷‍♂️

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u/idoeno Jul 27 '24

Not to mention, if you are politically motivated and a far left progressive, then you already know that Kamala is pretty mainstream-centrist (as was Biden), which is half of the draw, in that she can pull in more support and unify the country better than a far left candidate could.

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u/Notsurehowtoreact Jul 28 '24

Which is absolutely the shit they've pulled with women with any sort of career for decades, but I've seen fucking women parroting this bullshit too. Like, the misogyny is coming from inside the house y'all 

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u/Private_HughMan Jul 27 '24

And her laugh isn't even weird. It's extremely normal.

I think they just forgot what laughter sounds like because their leader doesn't ever laugh.

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u/Unicorn_Fruit ☑️ Jul 28 '24

Personally, I find her laugh infectious & genuine & I smile every time I hear her laugh. It’s a good laugh.

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u/Thor_2099 Jul 27 '24

Doesn't take being over 30 to get fooled. Zoomers are just as easily fooled by this kind of bs.

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u/Common_Objective_461 Jul 27 '24

Yeah wtf is this nonsense? Who do you think paved the way for this technology in the first place, 15 year olds???

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u/Aliensinmypants Jul 27 '24

Look at who's sharing obvious AI bait posts on social media, it's mostly boomers and bots...

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u/Outside_Crafty Jul 27 '24

The red pill pipeline is a serious problem with young men.

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u/o0_Eyekon_0o Jul 27 '24

Unless you’re on TikTok, then it’s mostly GenZ/alpha and bots.

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u/greenroom628 Jul 28 '24

yall still buying his cars

Not really since there's been an over 24% drop in sales with a 45% drop in Tesla profit.

I just hope EVs don't die out because of that schmuck's ego.

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u/Intoner_Four Jul 28 '24

a lot of EVs are stepping up to the plate with good cars, and then there’s also the chinese EVs that have to be taxed up the wazoo so Tesla doesn’t get shown up.

thankfully they’re still viable !

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u/OneEquipment5625 Jul 27 '24

Driving a Tesla is essentially driving a giant maga hat around. I would no longer even consider buying one. I would buy a vinfast before a Tesla at this point

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u/Private_HughMan Jul 27 '24

Some might have bought a Tesla before Elon went full mask-off with his awfulness.

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u/OneEquipment5625 Jul 27 '24

Exactly. There was potential if they fixed their quality issues. But how can you justify giving money to an apartheid prince and his trans-hating bigotry

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u/Private_HughMan Jul 27 '24

That's not fair. He hates WAY more people than just trans people. He hates black people, Jewish people, hispanic people, people who don't reproduce, poor people, poor people who do reproduce...

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u/OneEquipment5625 Jul 27 '24

Thank you for correcting my mistake 🤣

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u/Dramatic_Explosion Jul 27 '24

Despite being one he sure does hate immigrants, he showed that with his tiny backwards cowboy hat border tour.

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u/greytgreyatx Jul 27 '24

There's a Tesla in my town with all of the insignia removed.

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u/o0_Eyekon_0o Jul 27 '24

Yeah. People with older model Teslas potentially get a pass. Everyone in a cybertruck though.

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u/Private_HughMan Jul 27 '24

Oh yeah, no excuse for them. Even if they didn't know who Elon was, they have eyes. No one should buy that monstrocity.

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u/Amazing-Concept1684 Jul 27 '24

It’s the douchebag beacon lmao

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u/glitchycat39 Jul 27 '24

I'm over 32, leave me out of this lmao. I'll drag my nuts over broken glass to vote against Trump if I have to.

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u/Funktopus_The Jul 27 '24

Lol 30 is not old enough to fall for this

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u/Either-Durian-9488 Jul 27 '24

When people were saying myself included that anyone other than a ghost could probably beat trump, they were right.

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u/Private_HughMan Jul 27 '24

They’re really scared of this woman aren’t they?

Naturally. About 60% of the staff can go to jail if they come within 50 ft of a woman.

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u/IndyMLVC Jul 27 '24

Unfortunately, those are the people we have to worry about. The older generations vote far more than younger.

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u/PrudentCarter Jul 27 '24

Bro, give us some credit. Gotta be over 50 to have a chance at falling for this dumb shit.

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u/SewAlone Jul 27 '24

It is also illegal, but will anything happen to him? Not likely since he’s super rich and white.

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u/equalitylove2046 Jul 27 '24

Ugh Elon is despicable.

He has made Twitter an utter cesspool of racists,and so on.

I still don’t understand why the one that formerly owned Twitter just gave it up. 🤔

Now it’s run by an authoritarian bigoted megalomaniac sociopath.

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u/JumpForWaffles Jul 27 '24

"Owned" as in it was a publicly traded company with a board of directors. Their one, single job is to maximize profits for the shareholders. Musk fucked up by offering a ridiculous price for the company so the board pretty much had to accept the offer or be sued by shareholders for lost "value".

Henry Ford back in the day wanted to disperse profits to employees over investors and was sued by a pair of brothers. The courts agreed with the brothers that he wasn't doing what was best for the shareholders' interests. CEOs today are not obligated or incentivised to do anything for their employees past the bare minimum. Forever they must grow, quarters at a time. We used to be good at busting monopolies but billionaires have convinced a majority of the population that poors are the problem, not the 1% that don't contribute their share

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u/homelessyachtclub Jul 27 '24

Those brothers were the Dodge brothers they then went on and formed their own company to exploit their workers.

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u/Genki-sama2 ☑️ Jul 28 '24

And make shitty vehicles

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u/idredd ☑️ Jul 27 '24

Beautifully put. The problem isn’t individuals, the problem is capitalism (or at minimum our national approach to it). Profit above all led us here predictably.

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u/AncientDream7458 Jul 27 '24

It’s no longer public after Elon bought it

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u/JumpForWaffles Jul 27 '24

Yes, that's what I said. The commenter didn't understand why the previous "owner" sold it. Elon can do whatever he wants with it as he is not beholden to investors.

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u/TheSt0rmCr0w Jul 27 '24

Legit question, how is it illegal? I understand it’s fake and probably AI generated but I don’t see what the legal violation is?

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u/TeriusRose ☑️ Jul 27 '24

I don't think this is illegal under federal election laws yet. There are states that have moved/are moving to make deepfakes illegal in politics (like Texas), to match protections that already seem to cover this in commercial settings like right to publicity, but I don't believe we have a national law to address this yet.

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u/ninjaelk Jul 27 '24

At that level of wealth I'm pretty sure his skin tone doesn't factor into the equation any more when figuring chances he'll face consequences.

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u/Darqnyz7 Jul 27 '24

I'm firmly convinced that Musk is compromised by Russia. Think about the time line of events for how Twitter runs now:

Musk buys Twitter

Musk promises to get rid of all the bots

Musk fires 2/3rds of employees

Musk loosens content moderation

Musk makes Twitter Private company (ie doesnt have to hold public shareholder meetings)

Musk made Blue Checkmarks purchasable (meaning not restricted to verifiable famous/prominent people)

It's like the perfect recipe for the most powerful bot farm in history. Russia can just buy Blue check marks, run bots rampant with no employees to keep them in check, and the public has no way to hold them accountable.

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u/FunkapotamusLamont Jul 27 '24

Remember when he shut off Starlink for Ukraine to help Russia?

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u/Darqnyz7 Jul 27 '24

Yeah but even that's too obvious. We know he likes Russia. But why does he like them.

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u/VuckoPartizan Jul 27 '24

Money. He wants to be one of the oligarchs. In democracy, we can call him out and shame him and etc, in an oligarchy/ authoritarian regime we won't be able to

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u/LegoBeetlejuice Jul 27 '24

I think you're right. I've posted this a couple times elsewhere but think it's also relevant here:

This has been the GOP’s plan for a while.

  • He and DT’s son-in-law cozied up to foreign powers for the funding.

  • I think Kanye was supposed to slow-roll his support to build momentum, but he shot his hitler load too early and fucked that part up for them.

  • a reminder of the first line of the Mueller report: "The Committee found that the Russian government engaged in an aggressive, multi-faceted effort to influence, or attempt to influence, the outcome of the 2016 presidential election." (emphasis mine)

  • It’s obvious that they continued their efforts. It’s not hard to imagine that they’ve also continued to coordinate with their friends to further their goals

*AMP links fixed

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u/Pat0124 Jul 27 '24

Delete the app?

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u/Darqnyz7 Jul 27 '24

Do you think that solves the problem, or just kicks the can down the road?

What do you think I'm actually concerned about?

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

Twitter is legitimately worthless without users. Your attention is a currency, stop paying it to Elon.

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u/FunkapotamusLamont Jul 27 '24

For real. Deleting the app won't do shit to stop Elon

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u/Tiny-Buy220 Jul 27 '24 edited Jul 27 '24

This is illegal as fuck, sue Elon for distributing this shit!

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u/Ammu_22 Jul 27 '24

Did this tweet get noted?

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u/kazarnowicz Jul 27 '24

Elon has turned off community notes on his own tweets. That’s how insecure (and wrong) Elmo Cuck is.

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u/scottie2haute ☑️ Jul 27 '24

Cant believe we really let this dude become a celebrity. Hes always been an insecure dork but people were so desperate for a real life Tony Stark that we meme’d ol boy into a level of relevancy he never should have had

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u/kazarnowicz Jul 27 '24

I’m starting to think that the people who made Idiocracy are time travelers. They wanted to warn us for what happens if we let billionaires and celebrities control society. Unfortunately, conservatives saw it as an aspirational story and are now speedrunning the US towards it.

And of course the real life version of Idiocracy Tony Stark is Space Karen, Cuck to Orange von Schitzinpantz. This is why South Park stopped parodying politics - in a brighter timeline you couldn’t make half of this shit up without sounding like the village idiot.

Please, please let Kamala win in November!

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u/CCG14 Jul 27 '24

Mike Judge is a prophet.

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u/raginjamaicanwmgr ☑️ Jul 28 '24

And he probably hates that he is

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u/ADHD_Supernova Jul 27 '24

The movie was never about the future. It is social commentary on modern times.

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u/Unicorn_Fruit ☑️ Jul 28 '24

von Schitzinpantz

I chortled.

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u/Fiendsquatch Jul 28 '24

If anyone didn't know, the creators of idiocracy also brought Crocs into relevancy. No joke https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/idiocracy-crocs/

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u/FriendshipMammoth943 Jul 27 '24

Nothing will change ever until we figure out a better system then money

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u/cailian13 Jul 27 '24

This right here. We will NEVER truly succeed as a society until we get past the money and care more about making sure everyone has enough of what they need to live.

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u/Fit_Swordfish_2101 Unseasoned Foodie ⚪ Jul 28 '24

I totally think it was the Tesla thing. Him saying he was going to make public (the patent ) how to make a car that runs on electricity.. So in my mind he was kind of a robin hood figure because he was making something (knowledge!) and putting it out there for the masses to do with what they could.

But he's..THIS now. Sooo 🤮

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u/joeitaliano24 Jul 27 '24

He’s such a fucking dweeb, and also a really shitty father, who could have guessed!?

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u/kazarnowicz Jul 27 '24

You know one thing that irks me? This ordeal made me really lose respect for the Wait, but why guy. He did an AMA here on Reddit, promoting something or other and of course got the question about his role in Elon Musk’s rise to fame.

He essentially backed the guy. Maybe he has changed his mind now that Magnesium Man has showed how insane he is, but I can’t respect people who kiss the ring because they have financial gain from doing it.

I can’t really enjoy his work anymore, it’s all tainted with his lack of moral compass.

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u/joeitaliano24 Jul 27 '24

Which is sadly why most people kiss the ring

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u/A2Rhombus Jul 28 '24

He also put a plaintext list of slurs in the Twitter code that he's allowed to say without getting banned 🥴
He is the biggest dork in the entire world

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u/echoich Jul 27 '24

If his beliefs and use of money to promote those beliefs wasn't so dangerous, I would pity the guy.

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u/SnowDucks1985 ☑️ Jul 27 '24

Bet my 401k it won’t be, considering the level of power Elon has over Twitter. But Kamala should still sue regardless to make a point

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u/FlippyFlippenstein Jul 27 '24

Well, at least he doesn’t have the power to change the name in our minds to anything else than Twitter! 

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u/Fit_Swordfish_2101 Unseasoned Foodie ⚪ Jul 28 '24

Sometimes it's all about the damn audacity! The point! As you said!

I wish I could sue 45 for these extra mental health stressors he's putting on me (everybody!) we could make it a class action suit!

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u/J_Jeckel Jul 27 '24

I reported it about a half dozen times from different accounts within an hour or 2 of it being posted. Pretty sure it's still up. Xitter is not free speech, Musk has been manipulating the platform since he took over.

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u/claimTheVictory Jul 27 '24

To the surprise of literally no one.

His actions don't align with his words. Musk is a piece of shit.

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u/Mr_Pombastic Jul 28 '24

"We've investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong"

Bro delete all your twitter accounts, trust me it's not doing any good.

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u/PeteCampbellisaG ☑️ Jul 28 '24

Are even any content moderators working at Twitter anymore? Seems like Musk fired all of them.

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u/WornInShoes Jul 27 '24

H.R.6088 - Deepfakes in Federal Elections Prohibition Act

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

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u/hitbythebus Jul 27 '24

Just read the summary on that one, and it says within 60 days of an election. Election is in November so I guess check back in 41 days?

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u/ClaymoresRevenge Jul 27 '24

Sue him into retraction

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u/Tiny-Buy220 Jul 27 '24

Exactly, bring it to the forefront, the absolute trash/hate/lies he is allowing (and agreeing) with on Twitter. Hit him where it hurts, let’s talk about his Kung Fu pedo ways too. Time to bring these billionaire fuckers down

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u/mamadou-segpa Jul 27 '24

Trump basically admitted Elon will get a preferential treatment if he win lol

You guys better vote blue en masse or finally get used to Elon do that stupid bullshit.

And I dont see none of you deactivating your X account so you’re all financing him lmao

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u/Outside_Crafty Jul 27 '24

Someone above this said they reported it a half dozen times from "MULTIPLE" accounts. ?????? JUST STOP USING THE SITE?

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u/mamadou-segpa Jul 27 '24

If they really said that there is no hope for them lol

Reporting Elon lol

The guy forcing himself into everyone feed is going to get banned from his own platform?

Do people not understand the concept of a billionaire????

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u/A2Rhombus Jul 28 '24

Reporting the CEO of a website on said website is so funny lmao

It's literally illegal, make an FBI report

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u/cromstantinople Jul 27 '24

Looks like there are no federal laws about it but many states have laws on the books against this.

Anyone know how that works? If a deepfake is made and spread on twitter how would states go about combatting that?

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

I think there was a federal law that was very recently passed that would deal with this that was about ai and deep fakes.

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u/RemoveTheTop Jul 27 '24

That's only for porn

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

Well that's unfortunate. You'd think that they would have expanded it beyond that. Like including politicians ans public officials.

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u/AndySocial88 Jul 28 '24

Considering all the kinks out there I'm sure a former prosecutor can phrase it as right wing porn which it is.

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u/CriticalEngineering Jul 27 '24

It’s not (yet) the deepfake part that’s illegal, any impersonation already was.

Section 30124(b) of the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971, as amended (the “Act”), and 1 C.F.R. § 110.16, prohibit any person from fraudulently misrepresenting that the person is acting for, or on behalf of, a federal candidate or political party under certain circumstances. The Commission’s historical approach ot this prohibition has been long on ambiguity and short on discipline. Likewise, the Commission has not acknowledged hte level of First Amendment sensitivity appropriate for the core right of political solicitation. Commercial fraud regulations are not appropriate templates for regulation of political solicitations. Yet, Commission precedents have relied upon case law involving the federal mail fraud statute-which does not contain the word “misrepresentation” - for guidance on interpreting the Act.

I believe a clearer, more disciplined legal test is needed to implement this speech prohibition. This statement of policy sets forth what I believe should be the proper analytical framework, based on the text of the Act, its legislative history, federal court cases, and Commission enforcement action in prior MURs, for determining when fraudulent misrepresentation occurs.

The Fraudulent Misrepresentation Doctrine

The Act and Commission regulations set forth two prohibitions with respect to fraudulent misrepresentation. The first prohibits a candidate or his or her employees or agents from speaking, writing or otherwise acting on behalf of another candidate or political party committee on a matter which is damaging to such other candidate or political party.’ The second prohibits other persons from misrepresenting themselves as speaking, writing, or otherwise acting for or on behalf of any candidate or political party for the purpose of soliciting contributions.? The Act partier provdi es a n ro she hal migly dna hemanity. Teh pron ni ni agni e ohter persons misrepresenting candidates to solicit contributions is at issue in this matter. (Continues)

https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/Commissioner_Lee_E._Goodman_Policy_Statement_-_Fraudulent_Misrepresentation.pdf

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u/Pat0124 Jul 27 '24

What makes this illegal? I’m not informed

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u/must_think_quick Jul 27 '24

Passing an AI video off as someone actually saying something is a lie. It’s like writing an outright like as a direct quote in a newspaper. You cant just make something up and tell others it’s what someone actually said. That’s like slander and stuff.

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u/KingOfTheCouch13 ☑️ Jul 27 '24

Didn’t Scarlett Johansson just sue ChatGPT for using the likeness of her voice without her permission?

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u/must_think_quick Jul 27 '24

Yup! And they weren’t even trying to pass it off as her. So you can see how much worse this is when they are actually passing it off as someone.

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u/yesiamveryhigh Jul 27 '24

It’s like using a Morgan Freeman voice impersonator to sell a product. Unsuspecting people will buy it because they trust Morgan Freeman, not knowing he has nothing at all to do with the product.
Someone in Elon’s position posting this garbage gives it merit and to some, especially older voters, will believe it and sway their voting.

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u/mistakemaker3000 ☑️ Jul 27 '24

That sasquautch soap brand I keep seeing ads for is using some Morgan Freeman sound-alike, it sounds like A.i

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u/Politics_Mods_R_Crim Jul 27 '24

That’s like slander and stuff.

Didn't Spiderman teach you anything? It's libel.

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u/must_think_quick Jul 27 '24

Ahh there we go. Don’t get the Spider-Man reference though haha

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u/DamnBoog Jul 27 '24

It's referencing a quote from the first movie:

Peter: Spiderman wasn't attacking the city, he was trying to save it. That's slander.

J Jonah Jameson: It is not! I resent that! ... Slander is spoken. In print, it's libel.

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u/CriticalEngineering Jul 27 '24

It’s been illegal to impersonate a candidate in an election since 1971, it’s not the deepfake part that makes it illegal.

https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/Commissioner_Lee_E._Goodman_Policy_Statement_-_Fraudulent_Misrepresentation.pdf

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u/Pat0124 Jul 27 '24

Oh so slander that makes sense. Unfortunately they’ll probably just call it satire and get away with it

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u/eusebius13 ☑️ Jul 27 '24

Arguably, Elon posting this is an in kind contribution which must be accounted for in a specific way and reported.

https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/making-disbursements-pac/making-kind-contributions-candidates/

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u/CriticalEngineering Jul 27 '24

Long before deepfakes and AI, the FEC ruled that it was illegal to impersonate a candidate.

Section 30124(b) of the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971, as amended (the “Act”), and 1 C.F.R. § 110.16, prohibit any person from fraudulently misrepresenting that the person is acting for, or on behalf of, a federal candidate or political party under certain circumstances. The Commission’s historical approach ot this prohibition has been long on ambiguity and short on discipline. Likewise, the Commission has not acknowledged hte level of First Amendment sensitivity appropriate for the core right of political solicitation. Commercial fraud regulations are not appropriate templates for regulation of political solicitations. Yet, Commission precedents have relied upon case law involving the federal mail fraud statute-which does not contain the word “misrepresentation” - for guidance on interpreting the Act.

I believe a clearer, more disciplined legal test is needed to implement this speech prohibition. This statement of policy sets forth what I believe should be the proper analytical framework, based on the text of the Act, its legislative history, federal court cases, and Commission enforcement action in prior MURs, for determining when fraudulent misrepresentation occurs.

The Fraudulent Misrepresentation Doctrine

The Act and Commission regulations set forth two prohibitions with respect to fraudulent misrepresentation. The first prohibits a candidate or his or her employees or agents from speaking, writing or otherwise acting on behalf of another candidate or political party committee on a matter which is damaging to such other candidate or political party.’ The second prohibits other persons from misrepresenting themselves as speaking, writing, or otherwise acting for or on behalf of any candidate or political party for the purpose of soliciting contributions.? The Act partier provdi es a n ro she hal migly dna hemanity. Teh pron ni ni agni e ohter persons misrepresenting candidates to solicit contributions is at issue in this matter. (Continues)

https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/Commissioner_Lee_E._Goodman_Policy_Statement_-_Fraudulent_Misrepresentation.pdf

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u/HistrionicSlut Jul 27 '24

NAL!! Just a nosy armchair reddit lawyer so I know everything.

Well it could be a few things.

If this were 10 years ago, it would be illegal simply because you are intentionally misquoting and attributing quotes that aren't true.

Slander, fraud, perhaps voter tampering if someone felt randy.

However, with the extremely fast advances to AI, some states are scrambling to impost laws specifically related to AI. So, depending on who wants to bring suit over this, a bunch of different laws come into play. And it's kind of a cluster fuck from there.

AI is advancing faster than our legal system, similar to when the internet boomed. It's gonna be a minute before we regulate it again.

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u/breadcodes Jul 28 '24

H.R.6088 - Deepfakes in Federal Elections Prohibition Act; but unfortunately that only applies to a certain period before an election, and we're too far from the election. This was issued at the time when DeepFake was first released, though covers other generative media.

Though impersonating a candidate is definitely illegal, in a regulation from the Federal Elections Commission https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/Commissioner_Lee_E._Goodman_Policy_Statement_-_Fraudulent_Misrepresentation.pdf

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u/1KElijah Jul 27 '24

I don’t even know how some of yall are still on that trash website. He will be sued and forced to take down the video forsure but anyone who believes this video wasn’t going to vote for her anyway.

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u/Autoworker313 Jul 27 '24

This won’t work either HARRIS 2024🇺🇸

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u/Whats_Water Jul 27 '24

Elon upset that he endorsed Trump and spent even more millions on another disaster.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

Henry Ford thought Hitler was right, and Lindbergh was all in

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u/Musashi_Joe Jul 27 '24

And a bunch of rich oligarchs once tried to stage a coup against FDR. Fortunately the general they asked to head it said “yeah sure just wait here while I talk to congress real quick.”

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u/obviousfakeperson ☑️ Jul 29 '24 edited Jul 29 '24

That was the Business plot and that general was Major General Smedly Butler. Y'all might notice some familiar names implicated in the plot, like Prescott Bush, father of George H.W. Bush, and grandfather of George W. Bush. Funny how that works isn't it? Hilariously enough, one of Bush defender's actual arguments for why Prescott wasn't involved in the plot is:

"Prescott Bush was too involved with the actual Nazis to be involved with something that was so home grown as the Business Plot."

You can't make this shit up man!

Butler also wrote a book called "War is a Racket" about how he came to realize during his military service all the mfrs getting rich off of the lives of himself and all the men under his command. How he realized that rather than for glory or any other nebulously honorable reasons war was being waged purely to line the pockets of robber barons. I highly recommend you check it out if you haven't already. It's in the public domain and you can listen to it for free! Unfortunately, it is still incredibly relevant to today.

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u/caesar_rex Jul 27 '24

You mean Hotler thought Henry Ford was right.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

They can only cheat because they can’t compete. Elon is a turd.

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u/stugaz9339 Jul 27 '24

I wonder what Putin has on this guy

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u/Joeyc710 Jul 27 '24

He's a kiddie fu......kung fu master, as per his training with ghislaine maxwell

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u/TomatoPolka Jul 27 '24

I reckon Musk wants to flood the Internet with AI deep fakes so when this damning footage/audio comes out he can disprove it.

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u/Private_HughMan Jul 27 '24

They're bashing her lack of experience. She was a state prosecutor and senator. She was VP for 3.5 years so far. Why isn't that experience? Trump was a gameshow host and the right rallied behind him.

Hell, so much of the stuff they're slamming her for is literally Trump stuff. Kamala never said the US has an alliance with North Korea but Trump did say he and Kim Jung Un "fell in love," that he's a great and powerful leader, etc. Trump talks up tiny, insignificant shit all of the time. Trump turned every bill signing into a photo-op.

The only ways they can make fun of her are to draw attention to ger sex/gender and race, and to have a machine put their leader's words in her mouth.

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u/QuotidianTrials Jul 28 '24

He also suspiciously bankrupted casinos 3x(definitely not mobbed up) and licensed his name to some steaks and buildings. Brilliant guy

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u/SpectacularOtter ☑️ Jul 27 '24

So glad that I never bought a Tesla

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u/Sporelover105 Jul 27 '24 edited Jul 27 '24

I'm glad I left Twitter when this fuckhead arrived, actually I left Twitter when he announced he was buying it. Elon is getting more unhinged by the minute.

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u/LuchadoresdeSilinas Jul 27 '24

No amount of money will make him human… he will always be a piece of shit!!!!

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u/Nordie25 ☑️ Jul 27 '24

I think it’s genuinely impressive How people will continuously use Twitter all the while Elon Musk goes on a campaign painfully describing how much he hates people that look like us. At this point I’m not even surprised that he did something like this because it’s on brand

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u/Greybinson Jul 27 '24

Lololol holy god he’s so effing lame and predictable and boring. You’re not edgy bro. Dude thinks it’s 1998 and he’s an x-files edge lord. “He’s hacked us to the max”

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u/BramStroker47 Jul 27 '24

I mean…Elon Musk is a nazi. I’m not sure what is surprising.

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u/Living_Particular_35 Jul 27 '24

Fam…why are we still using Twitter? 🤔😕🤨

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u/SamMac62 Jul 27 '24

Where's the "manipulated media" tag?????

He was so quick at apply the tag to people reposting about the supposed code allowing certain users "free speech" and ban their accounts.

BANELMOFROMX

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u/always-puzzled Jul 27 '24

folk should of left twitter aka x long time ago. there are far to many other platforms. this is not a space for folk of color. you are not valued by this dude. he's already shown you.

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u/Early-Drawn Jul 27 '24 edited Jul 27 '24

Hes a nazi boy through and through he even turned twitter into a little playground for them

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u/ImitationGold Jul 27 '24

It’s almost equally as dangerous that Elon can do that and hide likes, disable notes on his own / chosen tweets, and force certain tweets to show up globally whether you follow him or not. Scary shit

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u/Licentious_duud Jul 27 '24

Who’s worse, Elon or Trump?

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

Yes.

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u/-------7654321 Jul 27 '24

Musk is scum.

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u/AHungryMind Jul 27 '24

Simple: Trump needs to win to stay out of prison. Billionaires need Trump to win because the Dems are ready to tax their asses and force them to pay their fair share.

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u/InfluenceMission6060 Jul 27 '24

Elon has turned Twitter into the perfect brainwashing and propaganda sharing platform.

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u/BountyHntrKrieg Jul 27 '24 edited Jul 28 '24

Isn't this type of ad illegal though? Cause it's literally a fabrication of the person's own voice and imagery to make them say something they never did? It's a step further than usual attack ads, even if those ads contain lies.

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u/mistersuccessful ☑️ Jul 27 '24

I bet Elon wouldn’t share one of these with Trump

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u/SonicDenver Jul 27 '24

Remember when the right said Twitter was rigged for the left to win in 2020? Not a peep from them about Elon donating 45 mil a month to trumps campaign. But they want to cancel Netflix cus one of their former founders donated 7 mil lmao

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u/OrganismFlesh Jul 27 '24

Does this violate any FCC laws, wire fraud laws, antitrust laws, campaign laws, libel/slander laws?

Does him having citizenship in multiple countries bar him from participating in US political campaigning/campaign financing?

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u/naotoca Jul 27 '24

This was always going to be the primary use of generative AI. It's only going to get worse the closer to November we get.

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u/exgiexpcv Jul 28 '24

This is criminal. Literally criminal. Why is Elmo not being charged?

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u/VapidRapidRabbit ☑️ Jul 27 '24

His apartheid ass immigrated to Canada and then emigrated to the United States, but always has something to say about US politics and constantly spews misinformation. Let’s hope they get some regulations in place to check his ass. The SEC already stays on his fat ass neck.

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u/Quirky_Cheetah_271 Jul 27 '24

alright you wanna fucking go there lets go there. lets drop some insane trump deepfakes

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u/ThaUniversal Jul 27 '24

It's like he's asking for people to make deep fakes of him.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

Are people still unwilling to leave TwitterX?

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u/Chaos-Theory1989 Jul 27 '24

They must be really afraid. 

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u/0n-the-mend Jul 27 '24

Yeah we need a new name on this site. It shouldn't be associated with twitter anymore.

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u/__mr_snrub__ Jul 27 '24

I call it Xitter (zitter). Elon showing his Zits like an acne riddled edge lord.

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u/bigsexy12 Jul 27 '24

Thanks, Elon. I've been dragging my feet, but this stupid shit finally got me to donate to Harris' campaign. 

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u/hnglmkrnglbrry ☑️ Jul 27 '24

Is it bad that the most annoying thing about this video is the single word captioning? When did we get so stupid we can't read full sentences or even partial phrases?

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u/humanprogression Jul 27 '24

"I'm the Democrat candidate..."

That's enough right there to know it's fake. Democrats do not use "Democrat" as an adjective. The term is "Democratic".

"Democrat" is an Orwellian and intential word choice that's been used by the GOP for decades to reduce the connection of the Democratic party with democracy.

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u/Sikkus Jul 27 '24

Just wait till AOC gets a hold of this.

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u/Not_your_cheese213 Jul 27 '24

Kamala is going to do a wonderful job. She’s a very smart lady

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u/Medical_Struggle1710 Jul 27 '24

Insignificant things like they are significant?? Is this not just saying they don't think things like women's rights and equality are significant ?

There's less confusing ways to be a twat

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u/nohurrie32 Jul 27 '24

If you drive a Tesla or post on twitter….. you are part of the problem not part of the solution

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u/Tallulah1645 Jul 27 '24

Elon Musk = 🤢🤮

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u/Dess_Rosa_King Jul 27 '24

Is this the same Elon Musk who attended "Kung Fu" sessions with Ghislaine Maxwell?

They Not Like Us.

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u/LightAnubis ☑️ Jul 28 '24

You know, being on the internet while black sucks.

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u/HEYitsSPIDEY Jul 27 '24

This is INSANE.

Our Congress needs to pass Information Technology laws IMMEDIATELY (they won’t).

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u/TaticalSweater ☑️ Jul 27 '24

This is the same dumb mf that blamed liked posts that blamed the CrowdStrike outage last week on DEI. No evidence of anything just showing his blatant racism.

Meanwhile Tesla’s autopilot has gotten people killed. The cybertruck has 4 recalls lol. All while he is at the helm of his company.

But people really think he’s cool somehow. I can’t get over people eating from his racist ass like its soft serve.

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u/ConsistentStock7519 Jul 27 '24

Fuck this Russian AI Bull Shit.

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u/BenevolentCrows Jul 28 '24

Come on, are we at the stage of calling deepfakes AI?? 

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u/leeny1018 Jul 28 '24

Is this legal? You can use a public person’s likeness like this?

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u/leeny1018 Jul 28 '24

Is this legal? You can use a public person’s likeness like this?

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u/Ok_Hippo9986 Jul 28 '24

I want someone to make one for trump. 🤣

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u/Ok_Hippo9986 Jul 28 '24

I want someone to make one for trump. 🤣

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u/Ok_Hippo9986 Jul 28 '24

I want someone to make one for trump. 🤣

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u/Ok_Hippo9986 Jul 28 '24

I want someone to make one for trump. 🤣

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u/Representative-Sir97 Jul 28 '24

We can hope it's exhibitionism... like a demonstration of exactly what we don't want people doing.

I suppose even if he is so reckless and moronic, it's still such a demonstration and can still drive the sorts of legislation we need to squash such things.

They got the deep fake porn bill passed. I know this content isn't sexual but it's hard not to lump it in with content that has no redemptive or artistic value and only causes harm. It's hard not to argue a bunch of people aren't getting fucked, even if it's just the idiots who will lap this shit up like water from a dog bowl.

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u/awahay ☑️ Jul 28 '24

So sick of this dude. He needs knocking down several pegs